"We are travellers…not yet in our native land" – St. Augustine
In a recent newsletter from the Coming Home Network there was the first part of a work by Orestes Brownson (1803-1876), entitled “Saint Worship”. In today’s post I just wanted to post a few extracts since it ties into some of the recent discussion concerning Our Lady.
If any of you have watched or listened to debates on atheism, you will have, no doubt, come across William Lane Craig. He is an analytic philosopher, Christian apologist and the driving force behind ReasonableFaith.org.
If you’ve ever heard him debate, you’ll know that he’s very clear, calm and persuasive. In fact, noted Atheist Sam Harris described him as “the one Christian apologist who seems to have put the fear of God into many of my fellow atheists”.
It was therefore with great curiosity that I listened to an interview where he discusses Catholicism:
The interview was rather interesting. Catholics were praised for seeming to read the Bible more these days, and Craig spoke about Catholic liturgy in exalted terms. On the whole he was pretty positive about Catholicism, although he of course still disagrees on certain points, otherwise he wouldn’t still belong to a Protestant denomination.
In the interview he raises two objections to Catholicism. The first is a classic, Justification. When speaking about this topic, Craig fails to understand how Catholics can speak about the involvement of works in salvation, yet at the same time assert that we are justified by grace.
The other issue raised was another old favourite, the Blessed Virgin. The interviewer, Kevin Harris, tripped up early on, saying “There was a move a while back to really elevate Mary, to almost equality with Christ, co-redemtrix. I don’t think that ever got off the ground in the Catholic Church, but there was a move there…”. This is misleading on two points. Firstly, although it’s not dogma, you’ll still find that title used a lot in reference to Mary, even although it isn’t as established as other titles, such as Mother Of God. Secondly, co-redemtrix does not indicate equality with Christ, simply that Mary has a role in redemption, much in the same way a pastor who leads a person to Christ participates in that person’s redemption.
On both of these issues, Craig seems to find a gap between official Church teaching and the belief of the Catholic faithful, some of which I find understandable.
I’d invite you to have a listen. What do you think of the interview?
Another of the articles I saw while I was away last month was one from Catholic Answer’s Matt Fradd, speaking about the supposed relationship between Jesus and Pagan deities: Is Jesus a spin-off of Pagan Deities?
Over the last couple of days I’ve been posting (with permission, of course) some of my exchange with a Protestant called Jerry. The final portion of his email took a wide tour of Catholic teaching and contained lots of assertions and various accusations tangential to our main conversation. For the sake of providing him with some basic answers, I responded to each of them briefly…
Yesterday I began of my “Catholics Come Home” blog series. I spoke about my faith journey from childhood through to my university years. Today I’d like to pick up the story again…
The story ended yesterday with my final months at university. I was part of a strong community and I was growing in my faith. Things were good.
However, after university, things did not go so well. I moved to a new town for work and, although I did not move far away, I had virtually no contact with anyone from either the Chaplaincy or from Verbum Dei. In fact, during the months which followed, only one person took the time to reach out to me from my university years. I felt rather abandoned. It felt like I was out of sight, and therefore out of mind. Those months were particularly trying for me since, soon after moving to this new town, my employer went bankrupt, leaving me unemployed.
I did not fare any better in parish life. After experiencing the welcoming communities of Verbum Dei and my University Chaplaincy, I was reintroduced to the more typical Catholic parish life. Each Sunday I rose early and walked a long way through the cold to Mass. Upon arrival, I was greeted by no one. The music was abysmal and the preaching was utterly uninspiring. Honestly, I felt I could have done a better job. There were no parish groups for me to join. There was nobody of my own age. There was no coffee after Mass and no real socializing of which to speak. I was just another anonymous parishioner who slipped in, heard Mass and then slipped back out. I had no personal contact at that parish whatsoever.
Yesterday I posted a video of some Dominican Nuns reacting to Pope Francis’ election. Here is the other video which I really wanted to post during my Lenten blog fast:
For those of you who don’t live in the US, the chap on the right is Penn Jillette, one half of the magic group “Penn & Teller” and a vocal atheist. I’m pretty sure everyone knows the guy on the right, the former British tabloid writer and editor, Piers Morgan.
Until recently I had no idea that Piers called himself a Catholic, but when Pope Benedict resigned he became incredibly vocal about it, tweeting and saying many things that would give a first year theologian a rather impressive aneurism.
I love the way it takes an Atheist such as Penn to explain to a professed Catholic such as Piers the basics of Catholicism…