PWJ: S4E71 – AH – “After Hours” with Marilyn R. Pukkila

In this “After Hours” episode, David discussed a wide range of Inklings-related topics with Marilyn R. Pukkila, known to some in the Tolkien community as “Marilyn, The Librarian”…

S4E71: “After Hours” with Marilyn R. Pukkila (Download)

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Timestamps

00:00 – Entering “The Eagle & Child”…
00:12 – Welcome
00:35 – Marilyn R. Pukkila
03:57 – Quote-of-the-week
04:39 – Drink-of-the-week
05:07 – Patreon Toast
06:08 – Haiku
06:50 – Discussion: PPP Moot
08:41 – Discussion: Nine Tolkien Themes
12:40 – Discussion: LOTR Movies
17:16 – Discussion: Tolkien Biopic
19:55 – Discussion: Lewis & Our Lady
22:06 – Discussion: Addison’s Walk
24:24 – Discussion: Till We Have Faces
35:27 – Discussion: Joy Davidman
41:15 – Discussion: Wonder Woman & Captain Marvel
44:06 – Discussion: Owen Barfield and TWHF
49:51 – “Last Call” Bell and More Information

YouTube Version

After Show Skype Session

David has interviewed podcaster and “Word On Fire” Fellow, Haley Stewart about the upcoming book club on “Till We Have Faces” and her recent article linking the book to the Sacrament of Confession…

Show Notes

Quote-of-the-week

• Since we have Marilyn The Librarian with us today, the QOTW comes from Surprised By Joy, where Jack is describes the school library:

The other undisguised blessing of the Coll was “the Gurney”, the school library; not only because it was a library, but because it was sanctuary

C.S. Lewis, Surprised By Joy

• The other undisguised blessing of the Coll was “the Gurney”, the school library; not only because it was a library, but because it was sanctuary.
  – C.S. Lewis, Surprised By Joy

Drink-of-the-week

• The drink-of-the-week for David was drinking Earl Grey Tea. Marilyn was drink Andy Serkis’ recipe for Gollum Juice:

Patreon Toast

• We’ve had a bunch of new Patreon supporters recently, so we need to toast one of our newest, Kevin L:

Kevin, we pray that, despite Lewis’ assertion to the contrary for himself, that one day you’ll find a book long enough and a cup of tea big enough to truly satisfy you… (but if you’re in a library, not at the same time – no drinks allowed!)

Patreon Toast

Haiku

• Marilyn wrote a haiku for us!

Brutal rejection
Radical transformation
Queen and Psyche both

Marilyn’s Haiku, “Orual”

Discussion Outline

Tolkien

• Marilyn told us about Prancing Pony Podcast Digital Moot.
• Marilyn unpacked some of her Nine Tolkien Themes (drawn largely from Letter 131):
  • Fall, Mortality, and The Machine
  • The dangers of possessiveness
  • The need of creatures of a creator-God to do their own sub-creating
  • Great events are often caused by the small and weak
  • “Art” created for the sake of art/creativity (which can appear to be magic)
  • Evil contains its own destruction, and unintentionally aids the good (by design)
  • The necessity of free will in all choices (to carry out the design)
  • The danger of power to all but The One (Eru Ilúvatar)
  • The need of the noble and the vulgar, the wise and the simple for each other
• David and Marilyn spoke about the Peter Jackson movies and the Tolkien biopic from a few years ago.
• In one of her emails, Marilyn commented on the “You Don’t know Jack” episode commenting on something Tolkien-related which she hadn’t come across before…

Myth and Till We Have Faces

• Marilyn talked a little bit about Addison’s Walk.
• David and Marilyn spoke for a while about Till We Have Faces.
• The interview drew to conclusion with a discussion about Barfield Month.