PWJ: S4E64 – Bonus – “We shall get in: C.S. Lewis and the Hope of Heaven”

Andrew Lazo was asked to speak at the 2021 Edith Stein Conference, hosted by Notre Dame University.

S4E64: “We shall get in: C.S. Lewis and the Hope of Heaven” (Download)

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Wise Words on Wednesday: Borrowed Books in Heaven

You might remember several years ago I wrote an article asking whether or not there would be Wounds in Heaven? Well, this past week I came across a quotation from C.S. Lewis which supports my suggestion:

“Yes,” my friend said. “I don’t see why there shouldn’t be books in heaven. But you will find that your library in heaven contains only some of the books you had on earth.”

“Which?” I asked.

“The ones you gave away or lent.”

“I hope the lent ones won’t still have all the borrowers’ dirty thumb marks,” said I.

“Oh yes they will,” said he, “But just as the wounds of the martyrs will have turned into beauties, so you will find that the thumb marks have turned into beautiful illuminated capitals or exquisite marginal woodcuts.”

C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock (Scrap #1)

PWJ: S2E22 – AA – Louis Markos

Today I speak to Dr. Louis Markos, Professor in English at Houston Baptist University and author of the book Heaven and Hell: Visions of the Afterlife in the Western Poetic Tradition. In this work, Professor Markos devotes a chapter to The Great Divorce, as well as the book to which Lewis was responding, Blake’s The Marriage of Heaven and Hell.

Dr. Markos is a fount of knowledge and I learned so much in this interview. In the episode, Dr. Markos explains to us why the Pagan classics are important, how the Romantics reinterpreted earlier works to re-imagine good, evil, Heaven and Hell…

S2E22: “After Hours” with Louis Markos (Download)

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PWJ: S2E20 – TGD 13 – “The Dwarf and The Tragedian”

Last week we read that Sarah Smith was starting to get through to her ghostly husband. In today’s chapter we see the conclusion of that encounter and MacDonald explains why misery must one day be unable to affect joy…

S2E20: “The Dwarf and The Tragedian” (Download)

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PWJ: S2E5 – TGD 3 – “Landing in Heaven”

Today we take our first steps into Heaven! The bus in which Lewis had been travelling alights in a new country and the passengers take their first tentative steps into this strange land…

S2E6: “The bus ride in the clouds” (Download)

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The Great Divorce: Chapter 3

Summary

The bus climbs over a cliff and travels across “a level, grassy country through which there ran a wide river” where it lands. All the passengers push and shove to get out.

Lewis leaves the bus where “the light and coolness that drenched me were like those of summer morning, early morning a minute or two before the sunrise”. He has the sense of “being in a larger space…which made the Solar System itself seem an indoor affair”. This gives him a feeling both of freedom, but also of exposure to possible danger.

Looking at his fellow-passengers, Jack sees them as almost transparent. The “grass did not bend under their feet: even the dew drops were not disturbed”. At this point he realizes that “the men were as they always had been” and that “it was the light, the grass, the trees that were different; made of some different substance, so much solider than things in our country that men were ghosts by comparison”. He tries to pluck a daisy and fails, it being “heavier than a sack of coal”. One ghost runs back into the bus, screaming “I don’t like it!”.

The Big Man asks the Driver when they’ve got to go back, but he replies that they can stay as long as they please. One of the quieter and more respectable ghosts comments to Lewis that personally he left the Grey Town to get away from this riff-raff!

Our protagonist looks around and sees some great mountains with “cities perched on inaccessible summits”. In the same way that the Grey Town seemed to be frozen in time, here the light does not change, with “the promise or the threat of sunrise”.

He then sees “bright” people coming to meet them, whose “strong feet sank into the wet turf”. Some of these people are naked, others robed, but it seemed to make very little difference, “the naked ones did not seem less adorned, and the robes did not disguise in those who wore them the massive grandeur of muscle and the radiant smoothness of flesh. Although some had beards, they all seemed ageless. Two more ghosts scream and hide in the bus. The remaining phantoms huddle close together.

Questions

Q1. How is this new land described? What do you think is the significance of these descriptions?

Q2. What does Lewis come to realize about himself and the other passengers?

Q3. What does the Bus Driver say about their stay in this new land?

Q4. What annoyed the Respectable Ghost?

Q5. How are the “bright” people described? What do you think is the significance of this?

Q6. Why do some of the phantoms hide in the bus?

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