{"id":9444,"date":"2012-01-28T07:00:29","date_gmt":"2012-01-28T14:00:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=9444"},"modified":"2015-03-19T15:16:57","modified_gmt":"2015-03-19T22:16:57","slug":"jesus-vs-religion-final-thoughts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2012\/01\/28\/jesus-vs-religion-final-thoughts\/","title":{"rendered":"Jesus vs Religion &#8211; Final Thoughts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I know, I know&#8230;.this topic has been done to death, but I wanted to offer some closing thoughts on Jeff Bethke&#8217;s\u00a0<a title=\"Jesus = Religion\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2012\/01\/13\/religion\/\">Jesus &gt; Religion<\/a> YouTube\u00a0video&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/Words.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"234\" height=\"187\" \/><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>The Meaning of Words<\/h2>\n<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of discussion online about the video. In one such discussion I came across someone who seemed <em><strong>indifferent<\/strong><\/em> to the fact\u00a0that Jeff didn&#8217;t appear to know the difference between the words\u00a0<span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>&#8220;Religion&#8221;<\/em><\/span>, <span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>&#8220;Hypocrisy&#8221;<\/em><\/span>\u00a0and\u00a0<span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>&#8220;Legalism&#8221;<\/em><\/span>. This person argued that it&#8217;s fine because the <em><span style=\"color: #000000\">&#8220;religion&#8221;<\/span><\/em>\u00a0referenced in the video referred to the self-righteous, legalistic kind. To this I responded:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>Words matter. <em>Words shape how we think (see George Orwell&#8217;s\u00a0book &#8220;1984&#8221;).\u00a0<\/em>What they mean matters. <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>It would be like my saying to you &#8220;Jesus came to abolish Christianity&#8221;. I may <strong>mean<\/strong>\u00a0&#8220;self-righteousness&#8221; or &#8220;legalism&#8221;, but that&#8217;s not the word I used &#8211; I said &#8220;Christianity&#8221;<\/em><em>. \u00a0I would expect a poet to care about words and to care about what they mean. <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>Words matter.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<h2>&#8220;What if I told you&#8230;I&#8217;ve changed my mind?&#8221;<\/h2>\n<p>I&#8217;m really happy to say that it does appear Jeff has had a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/thegospelcoalition.org\/blogs\/kevindeyoung\/2012\/01\/14\/following-up-on-the-jesusreligion-video\/\">change of heart<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000000\">&#8220;God has been working with me in the last 6 months on loving Jesus AND loving his church. For the first few years of walking with Jesus&#8230;I had a warped\/poor paradigm of the church and it didn\u2019t build up, unify, or glorify His&#8230;Bride&#8230; If I redid the video tomorrow, I\u2019d keep the overall message, but would articulate, elaborate, and expand on the parts where my words and delivery were chosen poorly\u2026&#8221; <\/span><\/em><span style=\"color: #000000\">&#8211;\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000\">Jeff Bethke<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I think it shows great character and humility. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see if he ever does a follow-up video&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Strong Response<\/h2>\n<p>Finally,\u00a0I wanted to say is that I&#8217;ve been really pleased with the strong Catholic response to this video. I found this engagement by the Catholic world with New Media really encouraging.<\/p>\n<p>There were some rather amusing images:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 120px\"><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/hasty_generalizations.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/hasty_generalizations-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Love Jesus, Hate Religion: Hasty Generalizations\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/hate_music_love_mozart.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/hate_music_love_mozart-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Love Jesus, Hate Religion: Hate Music, Love Mozart\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/wonka-exegesis.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-9503 alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/wonka-exegesis-150x150.png\" alt=\"Love Jesus, Hate Religion: Absolutely Wonka Exegesis\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/wonka-exegesis-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/wonka-exegesis-300x297.png 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/wonka-exegesis.png 320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;and many high-quality video responses:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TLta2b9zQ64?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/8dqnfz4y8uA?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/T5Qbcy3rEqc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">&#8230;and my personal favourite:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ru_tC4fv6FE?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I know, I know&#8230;.this topic has been done to death, but I wanted to offer some closing thoughts on Jeff Bethke&#8217;s\u00a0Jesus &gt; 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