{"id":86071,"date":"2022-12-19T11:04:36","date_gmt":"2022-12-19T17:04:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=86071"},"modified":"2022-12-19T20:13:26","modified_gmt":"2022-12-20T02:13:26","slug":"frank-pavone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2022\/12\/19\/frank-pavone\/","title":{"rendered":"Fr. Pavone"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yesterday I saw the unfortunate news that <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Frank_Pavone\" target=\"_blank\">Fr. Frank Pavone<\/a> had been <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.catholic.com\/qa\/does-laicization-remove-a-priests-powers\" target=\"_blank\">laicized<\/a>. I&#8217;ve already seen some Catholics on Social Media immediately posting <em>&#8220;I stand with Fr. Pavone&#8221;<\/em>. Their loyalty to Frank Pavone is touching, but the sentiment of such posts is unclear. I can see three possible interpretations:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>They believe the reasons for his dismissal to be false<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>They believe the reasons for his dismissal are true, but they think the penalty is excessive<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>They believe the reasons for his dismissal may or may not be true, but they just don&#8217;t care<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unfortunately, I have a suspicion that most people fall in the last camp&#8230; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Earlier echos&#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2021\/05\/15\/fr-altman\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"81666\" target=\"_blank\">Fr. Altman<\/a> was in the news about a year ago, we saw lots of people posting similar sentiments because they saw him as bastion against &#8220;liberal&#8221; Catholicism. Unfortunately few of his supporters would acknowledge the authority of his bishop or try to address <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2021\/05\/15\/fr-altman\/\" target=\"_blank\">his words and actions<\/a>. In their minds, the very fact that he stood up for &#8220;conservative&#8221; Catholicism gave him a free pass. However, just because someone does great good, doesn&#8217;t make it impossible for that same person to have done something incorrect or wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We&#8217;ve seen a very similar phenomenon in recent years among some Trump supporters. While some Christians who voted for President Trump acknowledge that they didn&#8217;t like some of the things he has said and done, others don&#8217;t seem to give such behaviour a second thought as long as he continues to <em>&#8220;own the Libs&#8221;<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Balanced criticism<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, one might ask why it seems that &#8220;conservative&#8221; priests appear much more likely to be disciplined than &#8220;liberal&#8221; ones. It&#8217;s a good question and I agree that discipline <em>does<\/em> seem to slant in one particular direction. However, that doesn&#8217;t mean we can just ignore ecclesiastical law, and just because one bishop fails in his duty to correctly discipline his priests doesn&#8217;t mean that all bishops must cease to do so.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Required Watching<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would invite anyone vocally asserting Frank Provone&#8217;s innocence or complaining about the unjust nature of his punishment to first reading <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicworldreport.com\/2022\/12\/17\/breaking-vatican-dismisses-father-frank-pavone-from-priesthood\/\">this Catholic World Report article which outlines the main facts<\/a>, as well as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pillarcatholic.com\/priest-for-life-a-frank-pavone-explainer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">this one from The Pillar<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Next, I suggest watching this video by a priest who previously worked with him:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/58y_jS4oEzY?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would also invite you to read the article referenced in the above video:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/father-pavones-last-stand\" target=\"_blank\">Phil Lawler article in Catholic Culture (2011)<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here is one of the tweets which seems to have got him into trouble:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Tweet.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"529\" src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Tweet-1024x529.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-86107\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Tweet-1024x529.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Tweet-300x155.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Tweet-768x397.jpg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Tweet.jpg 1396w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since disobedience was was of the charges against him, it&#8217;s probably worth noting that the video below was posted the day <strong>after<\/strong> <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/253106\/vatican-dismisses-father-frank-pavone-from-priesthood#:~:text=In%20an%20email,about%20this.%E2%80%9D\" target=\"_blank\">he claims to have first discovered the ruling from the Catholic News Agency<\/a>. I hope that the video was recorded <strong>prior<\/strong> to confirmation of his laicization, otherwise it doesn&#8217;t bode well regarding his future obedience to this ecclesiastical ruling:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qupKDH8KDYI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"741\" src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Priest-Screenshot-1024x741.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-86115\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Priest-Screenshot-1024x741.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Priest-Screenshot-300x217.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Priest-Screenshot-768x556.jpg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Priest-Screenshot-1536x1111.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Pavone-Priest-Screenshot-2048x1481.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, as always, watch this video from <a href=\"https:\/\/reasonandtheology.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Michael Lofton<\/a> where he offers some level-headed commentary on the situation:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/kg_L-RLG8Rk?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8230;and I would strongly recommend reading the article referenced which on <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/aleteia.org\/2021\/07\/13\/how-st-padre-pio-responded-when-the-vatican-silenced-him\/\" target=\"_blank\">How St. Padre Pio responded when the Vatican silenced him<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday I saw the unfortunate news that Fr. 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