{"id":80660,"date":"2021-04-06T00:15:00","date_gmt":"2021-04-06T07:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=80660"},"modified":"2021-04-12T10:12:00","modified_gmt":"2021-04-12T17:12:00","slug":"pwj-s4e52","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2021\/04\/06\/pwj-s4e52\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S4E52 \u2013 TSL 26 \u2013 &#8220;What have you done for me lately?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E52-TSL-26-YouTube.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E52-TSL-26-YouTube.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-80661\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E52-TSL-26-YouTube.png 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E52-TSL-26-YouTube-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E52-TSL-26-YouTube-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Andrew and Matt discuss Screwtape&#8217;s plan to sow future disharmony in the patient&#8217;s romantic relationship.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>S4E52: &#8220;What have you done for me lately?&#8221;<\/strong> (<a href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/PWJ-S4E52.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/PWJ-S4E52.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"block-51396fab-e50d-4cf5-92e3-e840026c934b\">If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\">manually<\/a>, or&nbsp;any place where good podcasts can be found&nbsp;(<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Pints-with-Jack\/dp\/B08K57WLYB\/\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\">Podbean<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\">TuneIn<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1289456381\/pints-with-jack\" target=\"_blank\">Overcast<\/a>), as well as on&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCcYFlFuyOmYL6LcuicqzULw\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a>. The roadmap for Season 4 is&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/pints-with-jack-season-4\/\">available here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"block-a56ad4a8-f43a-4986-8d5f-09ffa487daa4\">More information about us can be found on our website,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pintswithjack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">PintsWithJack.com<\/a>. If you\u2019d like to support us and get fantastic gifts,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/pintswithjack\">please join us on Patreon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-2882b493-f1aa-48ab-8db6-3c40f02265fc\">Timestamps<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">00:00 \u2013 <em>Entering \u201cThe Eagle &amp; Child\u201d\u2026 <\/em><br>00:13 \u2013 <em>Welcome <\/em><br>00:48 \u2013 <em>Chit-Chat: Forever Young <\/em><br>02:29 \u2013 <em>Chit-Chat: The Kilns Tour <\/em><br>05:09 \u2013 <em>Chit-Chat: Most Reluctant Sequel <\/em><br>08:49 \u2013 <em>Chit-Chat: Inklings Variety Hour <\/em><br>09:04 \u2013 <em>Chit-Chat: Once Upon A Wardrobe <\/em><br>11:12 \u2013 <em>Song-of-the-week <\/em><br>12:18 \u2013 <em>Quote-of-the-week <\/em><br>13:22 \u2013 <em>Drink-of-the-week <\/em><br>15:48 \u2013 <em>Patreon Toast <\/em><br>17:18 \u2013 <em>Chapter Summary <\/em><br>18:24 \u2013 <em>Discussion <\/em><br>52:52 \u2013 <em>Unscrewing Screwtape <\/em><br>55:55 \u2013 <em>\u201cLast Call\u201d Bell and Closing Thoughts<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-256e7e4a-897b-43e2-a2ed-609bf087c84b\">YouTube Version<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/W1EdZpHz0U0?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-a885e324-ccf9-42f2-9e03-3f3eb5dc7d6b\">After Show Skype Session<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">David recorded a quick Easter message:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/c-ZeOez9K1M?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><figcaption>The poem is by Sister Mary Ada:<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>The ancient greyness shifted <br>Suddenly and thinned L<br>ike mist upon the moors Before a wind. <br>An old, old prophet lifted A shining face and said : \u201c<br>He will be coming soon. The Son of God is dead; <br>He died this afternoon.\u201d <br><br>A murmurous excitement stirred <br>All souls. <br>They wondered if they dreamed &#8212; <br>Save one old man who seemed <br>Not even to have heard. <br><br>And Moses standing, <br>Hushed them all to ask <br>If any had a welcome song prepared. <br>If not, would David take the task? <br>And if they cared <br>Could not the three young children sing <br>The Benedicite, the canticle of praise <br>They made when God kept them from perishing <br>In the fiery blaze? <br><br>A breath of spring surprised them, <br>Stilling Moses\u2019 words. <br>No one could speak, remembering <br>The first fresh flowers, <br>The little singing birds. Still others thought of fields new ploughed <br>Or apple trees All blossom-boughed. <br>Or some, the way a dried bed fills With water <br>Laughing down green hills. <br>The fisherfolk dreamed of the foam <br>On bright blue seas. <br>The one old man who had not stirred <br>Remembered home. <\/p><p>And there He was <br>Splendid as the morning sun and fair <br>As only God is fair. <br>And they, confused with joy, <br>Knelt to adore Seeing that he wore <br>Five crimson stars <br>He never had before. <\/p><p>No canticle at all was sung. <br>None toned a psalm, or raised a greeting song. <br>A silent man alone <br>Of all that throng Found tongue &#8212;- <br>Not any other. <br>Close to His heart <br>When the embrace was done, <br>Old Joseph said, \u201cHow is Your Mother, <br>How is Your Mother, Son?\u201d<\/p><cite>Sister Mary Ada, Limbo<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-27508392-5bf9-4ea7-9a6d-34a4e3476c70\">Show Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chit-Chat<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Today is Matt\u2019s Birthday!<\/li><li>Matt and Andrew chatted about recent virtual tour of C.S. Lewis&#8217; Oxford home, The Kilns, which we recently offered to all Patreon supporters.<\/li><li>Andrew recently got to listen to some sections of the sequel to <em>Most Reluctant Convert<\/em> from <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/fpatheatre.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Fellowship of Performing Arts<\/a>, performed by Max MacLean.<\/li><li>Andrew was recently a guest on the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/inklingshour.podbean.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Inklings Variety Hour<\/a> podcast.<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patticallahanhenry.com\/\">Patty Callahan<\/a>, author of <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Becoming-Mrs-Lewis-Improbable-Davidman\/dp\/0785224505\" target=\"_blank\">Becoming Mrs Lewis<\/a>, is releasing a new book on 19th October 2021, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Once-Upon-Wardrobe-Patti-Callahan\/dp\/0785251723\" target=\"_blank\">Once upon a Wardrobe<\/a>:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Once-Upon-A-Wardrobe.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"672\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Once-Upon-A-Wardrobe-672x1024.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-80722\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Once-Upon-A-Wardrobe-672x1024.jpeg 672w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Once-Upon-A-Wardrobe-197x300.jpeg 197w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Once-Upon-A-Wardrobe-768x1170.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Once-Upon-A-Wardrobe.jpeg 860w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 672px) 100vw, 672px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Song-of-the-week<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>As usual, Listener John Marr came up with a bunch of suggestions:<ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6uTDa3771HM\">\u201cWhat\u2019d I Say\u201d<\/a> by Ray Charles<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE\">\u201cSabotage\u201d<\/a> by the Beastie Boys<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=g2N0TkfrQhY\">\u201cInnuendo\u201d<\/a> by Queen<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Bo759np9-nM\">\u201cYou Can\u2019t Get What You Want<\/a> by Joe Jackson<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VAtGOESO7W8\">\u201cSowing the Seeds of Love\u201d<\/a> by Tears for Fears<\/li><\/ul><\/li><li>In the end we went with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=r9uizdKZAGE\">What have you done for me lately?<\/a> by Janet Jackson because the lyrics are just fantastic!<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/r9uizdKZAGE?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Used to be a time when you would pamper me <br>Used to brag about it all the time <br>Your friends seem to think that you&#8217;re so peachy-keen <br>But my friends say neglect is on your mind <br>Who&#8217;s right? <br><br>What have you done for me lately? <br><br>Used to go to dinner almost every night <br>Danced until I thought I&#8217;d lose my breath <br>Now it seems your dancin&#8217; feet are always on my couch <br>Good thing I cook or else we&#8217;d starve to death <br><br>I never ask for more than I deserve You know it&#8217;s the truth <br>You seem to think you&#8217;re God&#8217;s gift to this Earth <br>I&#8217;m tellin&#8217; you, no way <br>You ought to be thankful for the little things <br>But little things are all you seem to give<\/p><cite>&#8220;What have you done for me lately?&#8221; by Janet Jackson<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Quote-of-the-week<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u201c\u2026courtship is the time for sowing those seeds which will grow up ten years later into domestic hatred. The enchantment of unsatisfied desire produces results which the humans can be made to mistake for the results of charity. Avail yourself of the ambiguity in the word \u201cLove\u201d: let them think they have solved by Love problems they have in fact only waived or postponed under the influence of the enchantment. While it lasts you have your chance to foment the problems in secret and render them chronic.\u201d<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (Letter #26)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Drink-of-the-week<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Andrew was drinking <a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterofmalt.com\/whiskies\/lagavulin\/lagavulin-16-year-old-whisky\/\">Lagavulin 16<\/a>.<\/li><li>Matt was drinking <a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterofmalt.com\/whiskies\/glengoyne\/glengoyne-12-year-old-whisky\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Glengoyne 12<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Patreon Toast<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Today they toasted listener <em>Paul Porter<\/em>.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chapter Summary<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Letter #26 was first published in The Guardian on October 24th, 1941. Here\u2019s David\u2019s one-hundred word summary:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Wormwood wants to use this time of courtship to sow seeds of domestic hatred which will flourish later in their relationship. Screwtape enthusiastically agrees! He says Wormwood should encourage the patient to mistake romantic enchantment for Christian charity. <br><br>He also wants him to replace charity with \u201cunselfishness\u201d. In particular, he wants Wormwood to lean on the differing understandings between the different sexes concerning the meaning of this word. Eventually the enchantment will lessen, and the paucity of the couple\u2019s spiritual resources will be revealed. Coupled with poor communication, resentment will build and their relationship will sour.<\/p><cite>Chapter Summary of Letter #26<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-27508392-5bf9-4ea7-9a6d-34a4e3476c70\">Discussion<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong><strong>Sowing Seeds<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>This letter begins with a bold statement:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Yes; courtship is the time for sowing those seeds which will grow up ten years later into domestic hatred.<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (Letter #26)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Andrew pointed out that &#8220;domestic hatred&#8221; is also mentioned in Letter #3, and also cross-referenced <em>Mere Christianity<\/em>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong><strong>Enchantment<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Screwtape explains how &#8220;enchantment&#8221; can be used as cover over problems:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>The enchantment of unsatisfied desire produces results which the humans can be made to mistake for the results of charity. Avail yourself of the ambiguity in the word \u201cLove\u201d: let them think they have solved by Love problems they have in fact only waived or postponed under the influence of the enchantment. While it lasts you have your chance to foment the problems in secret and render them chronic<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (Letter #26)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Matt referenced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC42c97zdcocC_iwPIB1BIaA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tori and Chad Masters YouTube channel<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong><strong>The difference between unselfishness and love<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Screwtape wants to replace &#8220;charity&#8221; with &#8220;unselfishness&#8221;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>The grand problem is that of \u201cunselfishness\u201d. Note, once again, the admirable work of our Philological Arm in substituting the negative unselfishness for the Enemy\u2019s positive Charity. Thanks to this you can, from the very outset, teach a man to surrender benefits not that others may be happy in having them but that he may be unselfish in forgoing them. That is a great point gained.<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (Letter #26)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong><strong>Differences between the sexes<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Screwtape sees there a difference between the sexes when it comes to &#8220;Unselfishness&#8221;:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8230;divergence of view about Unselfishness which we have built up between the sexes. A woman means by Unselfishness chiefly taking trouble for others; a man means not giving trouble to others. As a result, a woman who is quite far gone in the Enemy\u2019s service will make a nuisance of herself on a larger scale than any man except those whom Our Father has dominated completely; and, conversely, a man will live long in the Enemy\u2019s camp before he undertakes as much spontaneous work to please others as a quite ordinary woman may do every day. Thus while the woman thinks of doing good offices and the man of respecting other people\u2019s rights, each sex, without any obvious unreason, can and does regard the other as radically selfish.<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (Letter #26)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Screwtape talks about &#8220;Unselfishness&#8221; in his sermon <em>The Weight of Glory<\/em>:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>If you asked twenty good men to-day what they thought the highest of the virtues, nineteen of them would reply, Unselfishness. But if you asked almost any of the great Christians of old he would have replied, Love. You see what has happened? A negative term has been substituted for a positive, and this is of more than philological importance. The negative ideal of Unselfishness carries with it the suggestion not primarily of securing good things for others, but of going without them ourselves, as if our abstinence and not their happiness was the important point&#8230;<\/em><\/p><cite>The Weight of Glory<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong><strong>Delightful Results<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Screwtape unpacks the &#8220;delightful&#8221; results if Wormwood does his job well:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>When once a sort of official, legal, or nominal Unselfishness has been established as a rule \u2014 a rule for the keeping of which their emotional resources have died away and their spiritual resources have not yet grown \u2014 the most delightful results follow. In discussing any joint action, it becomes obligatory that A should argue in favour of B\u2019s supposed wishes and against his own, while B does the opposite. It is often impossible to find out either party\u2019s real wishes; with luck, they end by doing something that neither wants, while each feels a glow of self-righteousness and harbours a secret claim to preferential treatment for the unselfishness shown and a secret grudge against the other for the ease with which the sacrifice has been accepted.<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (Letter #26)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Matt connected this to our relationship with God, as well as with romantic partners &#8211; what will you do when the enthusiasm fades?<\/li><li>Andrew mentioned Larry Crab.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Screwtape begins to wrap up the letter:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>A sensible human once said, \u201cIf people knew how much ill-feeling Unselfishness occasions, it would not be so often recommended from the pulpit\u201d; and again, \u201cShe\u2019s the sort of woman who lives for others \u2014 you can always tell the others by their hunted expression\u201d.<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (Letter #26)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Matt connected this to <em>The Great Divorce<\/em> and Andrew connected it to Mrs. Moore.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>All this can be begun even in the period of courtship. A little real selfishness on your patient\u2019s part is often of less value in the long run, for securing his soul, than the first beginnings of that elaborate and self-consciousness unselfishness which may one day blossom into the sort of thing I have described. Some degree of mutual falseness, some surprise that the girl does not always notice just how Unselfish he is being, can be smuggled in already.<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (Letter #26)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u201cWhile one is yet only in love, the real person lies covered with the rose leaves of a thousand sleepy-eyed dreams, and through them come to the dreamer but the barest hints of the real person. A thousand fancies fly out, approach and cross, but never meet. The man and the woman are pleased, not with each other, but each with the fancied other. The merest common likings are taken for signs of a wonderful sympathy, of a radical unity. But though at a hundred points their souls seem to touch, their contact points are the merest brushings, as of insect antennae. The real man, the real woman, is all the time asleep under the rose leaves. Happy is the rare fate of the true . . . to wake and come forth and meet in the majesty of the truth, in the image of God, in their very being, in the power of that love which alone is being! They love, not this and that about each other, but each the very other. Where such love is, let the differences of taste, the unfitness of temperament, be what they may, the two must by and by be thoroughly one.\u201d<br><br>\u201cThe negative and positive relation we live daily causes us to emerge from beneath the rose leaves and penetrate each other so as to have really seen and be seen. It takes the negative to arouse each of us from our sleep . . . But the miracle of love that comes to birth each time forgiveness appears is truly the kiss of the spirit.\u201d<\/p><cite>George MacDonald<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Unscrewing Screwtape<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Do<\/strong>&#8230; foster spiritual growth to assist in charity<\/li><li><strong>Do not<\/strong>&#8230; focus on self-conscious unselfishness<\/li><li><strong>Do not<\/strong>&#8230; play games &#8211; speak the truth in love, honestly<\/li><li><strong>Do<\/strong>&#8230; love, real love, costly and clean.<\/li><li><strong>Do nothing<\/strong>&#8230; from selfish ambition or conceit, but <strong>[do]<\/strong> in humility count others more significant than yourselves. <em>&#8211; Philippians 2:3<\/em><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Next Season&#8217;s Book<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We\u2019re open to hearing from the listeners which book that they think we should read next season. 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