{"id":80487,"date":"2021-03-18T00:15:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-18T07:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=80487"},"modified":"2021-03-16T10:59:26","modified_gmt":"2021-03-16T17:59:26","slug":"pwj-s4e47","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2021\/03\/18\/pwj-s4e47\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S4E47 &#8211; AH &#8211; &#8220;After Hours&#8221; with Michael Jahosky"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E47-YouTube.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E47-YouTube.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-80489\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E47-YouTube.png 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E47-YouTube-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E47-YouTube-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Today we journey to Middle-Earth with Professor Michael Jahosky. Michael released his book, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Good-News-Return-King-Middle-earth\/dp\/1725263165\" target=\"_blank\">The Good News of The Return Of The King: The Gospel in Middle-Earth<\/a>, at the end of last year in which looks at the use of language, allegory, and metaphor in Tolkien&#8217;s Legendarium. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>S4E47: &#8220;After Hours&#8221; with Michael Jahosky<\/strong>\u00a0(<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/PWJ-S4E47.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/PWJ-S4E47.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"block-51396fab-e50d-4cf5-92e3-e840026c934b\">If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\">manually<\/a>, or&nbsp;any place where good podcasts can be found&nbsp;(<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Pints-with-Jack\/dp\/B08K57WLYB\/\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\">Podbean<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\">TuneIn<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1289456381\/pints-with-jack\" target=\"_blank\">Overcast<\/a>), as well as on&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCcYFlFuyOmYL6LcuicqzULw\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a>. The roadmap for Season 4 is&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/pints-with-jack-season-4\/\">available here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"block-a56ad4a8-f43a-4986-8d5f-09ffa487daa4\">More information about us can be found on our website,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pintswithjack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">PintsWithJack.com<\/a>. If you\u2019d like to support us and get fantastic gifts,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/pintswithjack\">please join us on Patreon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-2882b493-f1aa-48ab-8db6-3c40f02265fc\">Timestamps<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">00:00 \u2013 <em>Entering \u201cThe Eagle &amp; Child\u201d\u2026 <\/em><br>00:10 \u2013 <em>Welcome <\/em><br>00:39 \u2013 <em>Michael Jahosky <\/em><br>01:57 \u2013 <em>Quote-of-the-week <\/em><br>02:24 \u2013 <em>Drink-of-the-week <\/em><br>02:57 \u2013 <em>Patreon Toast <\/em><br>03:09 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Background <\/em><br>05:33 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Mythic Mission <\/em><br>07:54 \u2013 <em>Discussion: The Good News of Middle-Earth <\/em><br>14:38 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Preface <\/em><br>19:09 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Introduction <\/em><br>26:32 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Chapter 1<\/em><br>33:43 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Narnian Application<\/em><br>39:02 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Chapter 2<\/em><br>43:22 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Chapter 3<\/em><br>45:51 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Chapter 4<\/em><br>46:18 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Chapter 5<\/em><br>51:08 \u2013 <em>\u201cLast Call\u201d Bell and Closing Thoughts<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-256e7e4a-897b-43e2-a2ed-609bf087c84b\">YouTube Version<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ojMw6jVMlMc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-a885e324-ccf9-42f2-9e03-3f3eb5dc7d6b\">After Show Skype Session<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>No Skype Session today!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-27508392-5bf9-4ea7-9a6d-34a4e3476c70\">Show Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-9a5c05ab-2df3-4086-b1f7-70d12e5536d9\">Biographical Information<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Professor Michael T. Jahosky, teaches Humanities at St. Petersburg College in Florida. As I was researching him, I saw that on RateMyProfessors.com he has a score of 4.2\/5, which seems pretty good to me\u2026<br><br>He has two Bachelor degrees (One in Humanities and one in History) from the University of Central Florida and a Masters degree in Humanities from the University of South Florida. Over the course of his academic career, he has specialized in Greek, Roman, and Biblical history, philosophy, theology, and the arts. In Graduate school in addition to the above areas of study, he also focused on the early Italian Renaissance.<\/p><p>A few months ago <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/v2XMQO8KWh0\">he was on the Unbelieveable? Podcast<\/a> with another former guest of the show, Dr. Holly Ordway.\u00a0<br><br>He is the host of Mythic Mission, a podcast and YouTube channel and the author of the newly released book which we\u2019ll be discussing today, <em>\u201c<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Good-News-Return-King-Middle-earth\/dp\/1725263165\"><em>The Good News of the Return of the King: The Gospel in Middle Earth\u201d<\/em> <\/a>which is endorsed by another former guest of this show, Dr. Louis Markos.\u00a0<\/p><cite>Biographical information for Professor Michael Jahosky<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Quote-of-the-week<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>For Christmas this year, my brother-in-law, Sam, gave me a copy of Tolkien\u2019s collected letters. So, for the quote-of-the-week, I thought I\u2019d share Tolkien\u2019s own description of LOTR found in\u00a0 Letter #142&#8230;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em>The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision.<\/em><\/em><\/p><cite>J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter 142<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Drink-of-the-week<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Since it was a cold, wet day in San Diego, I was drinking hot peppermint tea. Michael was drinking Dogfish Head 60 minute IPA from his Prancing Pony mug.<\/li><li>Since we didn&#8217;t have a Patreon supporter to toast this week, we toasted Tolkien:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>To The Professor!<\/p><cite>Toast for Tolkien<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-27508392-5bf9-4ea7-9a6d-34a4e3476c70\">Discussion<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Background<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>So Michael, I gave a brief biography earlier, but would you mind filling in the details, telling us more about yourself, including your interest in Myth and <em>Middle Earth<\/em>?<\/li><li>How fluent is your Quenya and Sindarin?<\/li><li><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Podcast<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\" id=\"block-0aff33ff-f5de-4339-9342-3e2e6cb719a5\"><li>We\u2019ll get on to talking about your book shortly, but before we get to that, I want to make sure we talk a little bit about your podcast, <em>MYTHIC (I wish I were a mystic\u2026) Mission<\/em>. What are you doing on that podcast and who are some of the guests you\u2019ve had on?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Book<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>You\u2019ve recently released a new book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Good-News-Return-King-Middle-earth\/dp\/1725263165\"><em>The Good News of the Return of the King: The Gospel in Middle Earth\u201d<\/em><\/a>. How did you come to write this book?\u00a0<\/li><li>I really enjoyed your book, although I would definitely say that it\u2019s a book which deserves to be read slowly &#8211; \u201cred beef and strong beer\u201d. I really appreciated having your video guide:<ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=OUGYQb6pmJQ\">Introduction<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fLS_1JoXDXw\">Class #1 (Terms)<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=g-dsRihXbv0\">Class #2<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Emj_yxR6hTU\">Class #3<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=z7-A6xxlySo\">Class #4<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dg3lTBIsKXI\">Class #5<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=D8htf02GZmg&amp;t=38s\">Conclusion<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li>Professor Jahosky summed up the message of his book:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u201cIf everything in reality in some way points to Jesus Christ\u2014the incarnation\u2014then the best possible way to communicate that would be through a type of communication that is in form what it wants to say in content (incarnational).\u201d<\/p><cite>Jahosky, Michael T.. The Good News of the Return of the King: The Gospel in Middle-earth (p. 23)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Preface<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>In the Preface, you talk about your \u201cRoad into Jerusalem\u201d &#8211; what was this road?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Introduction<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>You have quite a substantial introduction, a little shy of fifty pages. What are the key things we need to know before we delve into the body of the book?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chapter 1<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>After the Introduction, the book is broken up into five parts. The first is called \u201c\u2018The Lord of the Rings\u2019 as Parable&#8221;. Here you break down a bunch of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fLS_1JoXDXw\">terms<\/a> related to allegory.\u00a0 What are they?<\/li><li>How should this shape our understanding of LOTR?<\/li><li>How would these terms apply to Narnia?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chapter 2<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>In the second section of your book you claim that \u201cParables Are Good News Stories\u201d. Why?<\/li><li>How does our understanding of parables help us understand the incarnation?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chapters 3 &amp; 4<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>In the first part you said that <em>The Lord of the Rings<\/em> is a parable, you then in the second that <em>Parables are Good News Stories<\/em>, and in the third section of your book you complete the syllogism by saying that <em>\u201cThe Lord of the Rings is Good News\u201d<\/em>. What do you unpack from this conclusion?<\/li><li>In Chapter 3 you also look through all of Tolkien\u2019s corpus &#8211; The New Shadow all the way back through the history of Middle Earth and in Chapter 4 you trace the story of Thorin. To what end?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chapter 5<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Your fifth and final section is simply one word, \u201cEstel\u201d. I think this title weeds out the casual Tolkien fans from the die-hards, separating the elves from the orcs so-to-speak.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">More Information<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCsg55A9HSzSwfU6qUKsvz7g\">YouTube Channel<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MichaelJahosky\">Twitter<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/lastdunadancom.wordpress.com\">Blog<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Good-News-Return-King-Middle-earth\/dp\/1725263165\">Amazon<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/mythic-mission\/id1548029752\">Apple Podcasts<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today we journey to Middle-Earth with Professor Michael Jahosky. 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