{"id":79961,"date":"2021-03-11T00:15:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-11T07:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=79961"},"modified":"2021-03-10T10:51:33","modified_gmt":"2021-03-10T17:51:33","slug":"pwj-s4e45","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2021\/03\/11\/pwj-s4e45\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S4E45 &#8211; AH &#8211; &#8220;After Hours&#8221; with Dr. Robert Royal"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E45-Splash.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E45-Splash.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-80448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E45-Splash.png 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E45-Splash-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E45-Splash-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After hearing Dr. Robert Royal give a <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/instituteofcatholicculture.org\/instructors\/5d9dffa7c9491\" target=\"_blank\">two-part lecture series<\/a> on <em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em> to <a href=\"https:\/\/instituteofcatholicculture.org\/\">The Institute of Catholic Culture<\/a>, we invited him onto the show to talk about everyone&#8217;s favourite devil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>S4E45: &#8220;After Hours&#8221; with Dr. Robert Royal<\/strong>\u00a0(<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/PWJ-S4E45.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/PWJ-S4E45.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"block-51396fab-e50d-4cf5-92e3-e840026c934b\">If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\">manually<\/a>, or&nbsp;any place where good podcasts can be found&nbsp;(<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Pints-with-Jack\/dp\/B08K57WLYB\/\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\">Podbean<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\">TuneIn<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1289456381\/pints-with-jack\" target=\"_blank\">Overcast<\/a>), as well as on&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCcYFlFuyOmYL6LcuicqzULw\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a>. The roadmap for Season 4 is&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/pints-with-jack-season-4\/\">available here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"block-a56ad4a8-f43a-4986-8d5f-09ffa487daa4\">More information about us can be found on our website,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pintswithjack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">PintsWithJack.com<\/a>. If you\u2019d like to support us and get fantastic gifts,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/pintswithjack\">please join us on Patreon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-2882b493-f1aa-48ab-8db6-3c40f02265fc\">Timestamps<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">00:00 <em>\u2013 Entering \u201cThe Eagle &amp; Child\u201d\u2026 <\/em><br>00:12 \u2013 <em>Welcome<\/em> <br>00:44 \u2013 <em>Dr. Robert Royal<\/em><br>02:01 \u2013 <em>Quote-of-the-week <\/em><br>03:07 \u2013 <em>Drink-of-the-week <\/em><br>03:48 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Background<\/em><br>07:31 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Meeting Lewis<\/em><br>11:27 \u2013 <em>Discussion: Screwtape<\/em> &amp; Dante<br>40:24 \u2013 <em><em>\u201cLast Call\u201d Bell and Closing Thoughts<\/em><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-256e7e4a-897b-43e2-a2ed-609bf087c84b\">YouTube Version<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-embed-handler wp-block-embed-embed-handler wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/WKtH4X2rQpA?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-a885e324-ccf9-42f2-9e03-3f3eb5dc7d6b\">After Show Skype Session<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>No Skype Session today!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-27508392-5bf9-4ea7-9a6d-34a4e3476c70\">Show Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-9a5c05ab-2df3-4086-b1f7-70d12e5536d9\">Biographical Information<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Dr. Robert Royal is the founder and president of the Faith &amp; Reason Institute in Washington, D.C. and editor-in-chief of The Catholic Thing. Dr. Royal holds a B.A. and M.A. from Brown University and a Ph.D. in Comparative Literature from the Catholic University of America. He has taught at Brown University, Rhode Island College, and the Catholic University of America. <br><br>His articles have appeared in numerous scholarly journals and other publications, including First Things, The Catholic Historical Review, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and National Review. <br><br>He is also a noted author and among Dr. Royal&#8217;s many books are The Pope&#8217;s Army and The God That Did Not Fail.<\/p><cite>Biographical information for Dr. Robert Royal<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chit-Chat<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>I came across Dr. Royal after listening to a two-part lecture he gave <a href=\"https:\/\/instituteofcatholicculture.org\/events\/c-s-lewis-the-screwtape-letters\">to the Institute of Catholic Culture<\/a> on the subject of the book we\u2019ve been working through this season, <em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em>.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Quote-of-the-week<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Since Dr. Royal is from <em>The Faith and Reason Institute<\/em>, a quote-of-the-week was chosen which addresses both of these two topics: faith and reason&#8230; <\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em>\u201c\u2026supposing a man\u2019s reason once decides that the weight of evidence is for [Christianity]. I can tell that man what is going to happen to him in the next few weeks&#8230;.<\/em><\/em><\/p><p><em><em> \u2026there will come a moment when he wants a woman, or wants to tell a lie, or feels very pleased with himself, or sees a chance of making a little money in some way that is not perfectly fair; some moment at which it would be convenient if Christianity were not true. And his emotions will carry out a blitz. <\/em><\/em><br><br><em><em>I am not talking of any moments at which any real reasons against Christianity turn up. Those have to be faced, and that is a different matter. I am talking about moments where a mere mood rises up against it\u2026. <\/em><\/em><br><br><em><em>Now faith in the sense in which I am here using the word is the art of holding onto the things your reason has once accepted, in spite of your changing moods. For moods change whatever view your reason takes.\u201d<\/em><\/em><\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Drink-of-the-week<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Normally the drink-of-the-week is some kind of scotch, or some kind of tea, but my wife had my favourite flavour of Gatorade in the fridge (<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.walmart.com\/ip\/Gatorade-Thirst-Quencher-Lime-Cucumber-Drink-32-Fl-Oz\/139277251\" target=\"_blank\">Lime and Cucumber<\/a>), so I\u2019m having that mixed with some carbonated water. Dr. Royal didn&#8217;t think Lewis would approve!<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-27508392-5bf9-4ea7-9a6d-34a4e3476c70\">Discussion<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Dr. Royal fills in a few more details about your background and the <em>Faith &amp; Reason Institute<\/em>.<\/li><li>He then shared some of his personal journey with Lewis.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Screwtape<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>I asked Dr. Royal about his initial reaction to reading <em>Screwtape<\/em>.<\/li><li>We then discussed some of the themes of Screwtape and the connections and differences to Dante.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">More Information<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/frinstitute.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Faith &amp; Reason Institute<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Robert-Royal\/e\/B001HPXBW6\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Royal&#8217;s Books<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thecatholicthing.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Catholic Thing<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecatholicthing.org\/2021\/01\/25\/a-divine-comedy-in-2021\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Dante Course<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After hearing Dr. Robert Royal give a two-part lecture series on The Screwtape Letters to The Institute of Catholic Culture, we invited him onto the show to talk about everyone&#8217;s favourite devil.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":80146,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3111],"tags":[5012,5161,5848,2969,4430,5847,4438,5846,5817],"class_list":["post-79961","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast","tag-c-s-lewis-2","tag-dante","tag-dr-robert-royal","tag-featured","tag-pints-with-jack","tag-the-catholic-thing","tag-the-eagle-and-child-podcast","tag-the-faith-and-reason-institute","tag-women-and-c-s-lewis"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/S4E45-Blog.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/79961","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=79961"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/79961\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":80488,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/79961\/revisions\/80488"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/80146"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=79961"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=79961"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=79961"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}