{"id":78634,"date":"2020-11-19T03:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-11-19T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=78634"},"modified":"2020-12-10T09:45:43","modified_gmt":"2020-12-10T16:45:43","slug":"pwj-s4e13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2020\/11\/19\/pwj-s4e13\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S4E13 &#8211; AH &#8211; &#8220;After Hours&#8221; with Douglas Gresham"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/S4E13-Blog-Splash.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/S4E13-Blog-Splash.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-78673\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/S4E13-Blog-Splash.png 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/S4E13-Blog-Splash-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/S4E13-Blog-Splash-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2020\/08\/11\/pwj-s3e49\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"75997\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Earlier in the year<\/a>, Matt interviewed Douglas Gresham about life with his stepfather, C.S. Lewis. Today Douglas returns to talk about his life in the post-Lewis years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>S4E13: &#8211; &#8220;After Hours&#8221; with Douglas Gresham\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/PWJ-S4E13.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/PWJ-S4E13.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\">manually<\/a>, or\u00a0any place where good podcasts can be found (<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>,\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Pints-with-Jack\/dp\/B08K57WLYB\/\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\">Podbean<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\">TuneIn<\/a> and <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1289456381\/pints-with-jack\" target=\"_blank\">Overcast<\/a>), as well as on\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCcYFlFuyOmYL6LcuicqzULw\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a>. The roadmap for Season 4 is\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/pints-with-jack-season-4\/\">available here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">More information about us can be found on our website,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pintswithjack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">PintsWithJack.com<\/a>. If you\u2019d like to support us and get fantastic gifts,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/pintswithjack\">please join us on Patreon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Timestamps<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">00:00 \u2013 Entering \u201cThe Eagle &amp; Child\u201d\u2026<br>00:11 \u2013 Welcome<br>00:59 \u2013 Biographical details<br>02:47 \u2013 Quote-of-the-week<br>05:40 \u2013 Conversion and the Christian Life<br>12:20 \u2013 The Rathvinden Ministry<br>29:51 \u2013 Jack and Joy&#8217;s Love<br>34:04 \u2013 Supporting Jack<br>37:01 \u2013 Douglas and Merrie<br>44:41 \u2013 Legacy<br>49:41 \u2013 Jack&#8217;s humour<br>52:55 \u2013 The Screwtape Letters<br>54:54 \u2013 Till We Have Faces<br>56:24 \u2013 &#8220;Last Call&#8221; Bell and Closing Remarks<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">YouTube Version<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ZIW7wHD6D7M?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">After Show Skype Session<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In today&#8217;s Skype Session I talk about Doughlas&#8217; two books, Lenten Lands and Jack&#8217;s Life:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Hhm8JeHD-Mk?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Show Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Opening<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Biography<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Douglas is an American \/ British stage and voice over actor, biographer, film producer and executive record producer. He\u2019s written an autobiography called Lenten Lands which chronicles his early life. He&#8217;s also written a book titled Jack\u2019s Life about his stepfather C.S. lewis. Further, he is one of two sons of Joy Davidman, who we have learned a lot about from Patti Callahan and discussed on many different occasions on the podcast.<\/p><cite>Biographical Information about Douglas Gresham<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Quote-of-the-week<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>The quote-of-the-week:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em>\u201cMuch has happened in my life since I wrote this book; much has changed in both my life and my self. For details of this you will have to wait for the next autobiographical tome, but for the moment suffice it to say that I now live in Ireland and I have committed my life to Christ and His service. I made the leap from nominal Anglicanism to committed Christianity following Merrie some years after her own decision. As you will know if you have read this far, I always believed in God and in Jesus Christ; my problem was not one of belief, but one of arrogance and pride. I did not want to submit my life to any authority other than my own and it took me a long time to realise that I am simply not qualified to run it myself.\u201d<\/em><\/em><\/p><cite>Douglas Gresham, Lenten Lands<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Drink-of-the-week<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>No drink this episodee!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Patreon Toast<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>No toast this episode<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Discussion<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Matt had previously interviewed Douglas back in Season 3:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/RWXbpKK3LxA?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Matt and Douglas spoke about conversion and the Christian Life<\/li><li>Douglas shared about the Rathvinden Ministry with his wife in Ireland<\/li><li>They spoke about the love of his mother and stepfather and Douglas&#8217; marriage advice<\/li><li>Matt asked Douglas about his legacy.<\/li><li>As the interview drew to a close, they spoke about Jack&#8217;s humour, as well as <em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em> and <em>Till We Have Faces<\/em>.<\/li><li>Here is Douglas (right) modelling a <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pintswithjack.com\/shop\" target=\"_blank\">Pints With Jack T-Shirt<\/a>. The chap on the left is Robert who is recording a documentary about Douglas&#8217; life &#8211; expect to see him on an episode sometime next year&#8230;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Duo-scaled.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"824\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Duo-1024x824.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-78712\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Duo-1024x824.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Duo-300x242.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Duo-768x618.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Duo-1536x1237.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Duo-2048x1649.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier in the year, Matt interviewed Douglas Gresham about life with his stepfather, C.S. Lewis. Today Douglas returns to talk about his life in the post-Lewis years.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":78708,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3111],"tags":[5012,4489,2969,5521,4438,4822],"class_list":["post-78634","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast","tag-c-s-lewis-2","tag-douglas-gresham","tag-featured","tag-merrie-gresham","tag-the-eagle-and-child-podcast","tag-the-screwtape-letters"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/S4E13-Blog.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78634","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=78634"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78634\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":79042,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78634\/revisions\/79042"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/78708"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=78634"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=78634"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=78634"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}