{"id":77779,"date":"2020-10-01T03:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-10-01T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=77779"},"modified":"2020-12-10T09:52:42","modified_gmt":"2020-12-10T16:52:42","slug":"pwj-s4e4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2020\/10\/01\/pwj-s4e4\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S4E4 &#8211; &#8220;After Hours&#8221; with William O&#8217;Flaherty"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/S4E034-Blog-Banner.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-78009\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/S4E034-Blog-Banner.png 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/S4E034-Blog-Banner-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/S4E034-Blog-Banner-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Today I interview a man who is well-known in the C.S. Lewis community, William O&#8217;Flaherty. William runs <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.essentialcslewis.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">EssentialCSLewis.com<\/a> and is the host of the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/allaboutjack.podbean.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">All About Jack<\/a> podcast. He has just launched a new YouTube cannel called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCxDbF21KIqxNOapv-4_paEA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">90 Seconds To Knowing C.S. Lewis<\/a>. He is also the author of <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B07CGR7KH5\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Misquotable CS Lewis<\/a> and the book which we will be discussing today, his guide to <em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em> called <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/C-S-Lewis-Goes-Hell-Companion\/dp\/1935688111\" target=\"_blank\">C.S. Lewis Goes To Hell<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>S3E4: \u201cAfter Hours\u201d with William O&#8217;Flaherty<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/PJW-S4E4.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/PJW-S4E4.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\">manually<\/a>, or\u00a0any place where good podcasts can be found (<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>,\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Pints-with-Jack\/dp\/B08K57WLYB\/\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\">Podbean<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\">TuneIn<\/a> and <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1289456381\/pints-with-jack\" target=\"_blank\">Overcast<\/a>), as well as on\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCcYFlFuyOmYL6LcuicqzULw\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a>. The roadmap for Season 4 is\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/pints-with-jack-season-4\/\">available here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">More information about us can be found on our website,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pintswithjack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">PintsWithJack.com<\/a>. If you\u2019d like to support us and get fantastic gifts,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/pintswithjack\">please join us on Patreon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The roadmap for Season 4 is&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/pints-with-jack-season-4\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"74416\">available here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Timestamps<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">00:00 \u2013 <em>Entering \u201cThe Eagle &amp; Child\u201d\u2026<\/em><br>00:13 \u2013 <em>Welcome<\/em><br>00:49 \u2013 <em>William O&#8217;Flaherty<\/em><br>02:02 \u2013 <em>The Misquotable C.S. Lewis<\/em><br>04:20 \u2013 <em>Quote-of-the-week<\/em><br>06:30 \u2013 <em>Drink-of-the-week<\/em><br>06:50 \u2013 <em>Patreon Toast<\/em><br>07:23 \u2013 <em>Introduced to Lewis<\/em><br>08:01 \u2013 <em>Going deeper<\/em><br>09:33 \u2013 <em>Writing<\/em><br>10:33 \u2013 <em>Podcasting<\/em><br>15:27 \u2013 <em>YouTube<\/em><br>17:29 \u2013 <em>Vocation satisfaction<\/em><br>18:30 \u2013 <em>Genesis of &#8220;C.S. Lewis goes to Hell<\/em>&#8220;<br>21:16 \u2013 <em>How to use the book<\/em><br>24:00 \u2013 <em>Would Lewis like this?<\/em><br>27:58 \u2013 <em>Screwtape&#8217;s main weapon<\/em><br>30:41 \u2013 <em>Screwtape Reading Tips<\/em><br>32:01 \u2013 <em>Contact Information<\/em><br>33:46 \u2013 <em>&#8220;Last Call&#8221; Bell and Closing Remarks<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">YouTube Verison<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/P-ft_KbCFqc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">After Show Skype Session<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Following on from Tuesday&#8217;s episode, Andrew sits down to share with you all of his different versions of &#8220;The Screwtape Letters&#8221; and to talk about some of the more obscure Prefaces out there:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/erWemejCZS0?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Show Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Opening<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>I shared some biographical information about William:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>William is the host of EssentialCSLewis.com. He has his own podcast, \u201cAll About Jack\u201d and he is also the author of both <em>&#8220;Misquotable C.S. Lewis\u201d<\/em> and, for particular relevance this season, he is also the author of \u201cC.S. Lewis goes to Hell\u201d which is his analysis of &#8220;The Screwtape Letters&#8221;<\/p><cite>Biographical information about William O&#8217;Flaherty<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>I explained that William&#8217;s podcast was my main introduction to the wider C.S. Lewis and that William and I got to meet in Montreat at the end of last year.<\/li><li>We chatted about his book <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2IUTJBr\" target=\"_blank\">The Misquotable C.S. Lewis<\/a> which helps folks identify quotations misattributed to Lewis. For the quote-of-the-week I chose all incorrect quotations:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8220;Getting over a painful experience is much like crossing monkey bars\u2014let go to move forward.\u201d <br><br>\u201cHumility is not thinking less of yourself, it&#8217;s thinking of yourself less.\u201d <br><br>\u201cIntegrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.\u201d <br><br>\u201cExperience that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God, do you learn.\u201d <\/p><cite>Not C.S. Lewis<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>\u201cThere are far, far better things ahead than any we leave behind.\u201d<\/em><\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis&#8230;but requires some tweaking and some context<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>The drink-of-the-week was chrysanthemum tea. William was drinking a protein shake. <\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Discussion<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>William spoke about his introduction to Lewis and how his interest in him grew deeper.<\/li><li>We talked about his early versions of his website <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.essentialcslewis.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">EssentialCSLewis.com<\/a>, as well as podcasting at <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/allaboutjack.podbean.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">All About Jack<\/a>. William told us about his new YouTube channel called <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCxDbF21KIqxNOapv-4_paEA\" target=\"_blank\">90 Seconds To Knowing C.S. Lewis<\/a>. We discussed what he&#8217;s enjoyed most about doing all of this work. <\/li><li>We discussed his book <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2BfStXh\" target=\"_blank\">C.S. Lewis goes to Hell<\/a>. I asked him how the book could be used. <\/li><li>I mentioned that in 1947 Lewis refused permission for a scholar to create an index for TSL, saying: <\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u201c&#8230;part of the success of that book depends on luring the ordinary reader into a serious self-knowledge under pretense of being a kind of joke\u2026 Of course, this would not deter readers like you&#8230;but it is the worldly reader that I specifically want to catch\u201d<\/p><cite>January 1947 (Collected Letters II)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>William explained what Screwtape&#8217;s main weapon is, keeping things out of the mind of the patient. I commented on the irony that, when Lewis appeared on the cover of time, he had a devil whispering into his ear&#8230;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"527\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Time-Magazine.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-78033\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Time-Magazine.jpg 400w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Time-Magazine-228x300.jpg 228w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>If you would like to contact William, he has a Twitter account, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/EssentialLewis\" target=\"_blank\">@EssentialLewis<\/a>. If you come across a quotation and would like to know whether or not it&#8217;s real, you can ask about it on William&#8217;s <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/ConfirmLewisQuotes\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook Group<\/a>.<\/li><li>Don&#8217;t forget to check out <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.essentialcslewis.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">EssentialCSLewis.com<\/a> and subscribe to his YouTube channel, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" style=\"font-size: 1rem\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCxDbF21KIqxNOapv-4_paEA\" target=\"_blank\">90 Seconds To Knowing C.S. Lewis<\/a><span style=\"font-size: 1rem\">.<\/span><\/li><li>Both of William&#8217;s books, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1935688111\" target=\"_blank\">C.S. Lewis goes to Hell<\/a> and <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Misquotable-C-S-Lewis-Actually-Matters\/dp\/1532638426\" data-type=\"URL\" target=\"_blank\">The Misquotable C.S. Lewis<\/a> are available on Amazon.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today I interview a man who is well-known in the C.S. Lewis community, William O&#8217;Flaherty. William runs EssentialCSLewis.com and is the host of the &#8220;All About Jack&#8221; podcast. He is also the author of &#8220;The Misquotable CS Lewis&#8221; and the book which we will be discussing today, his guide to &#8220;The Screwtape Letters&#8221; called &#8220;C.S. 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