{"id":77775,"date":"2020-09-24T03:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-09-24T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=77775"},"modified":"2020-12-10T09:53:00","modified_gmt":"2020-12-10T16:53:00","slug":"pwj-s4e2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2020\/09\/24\/pwj-s4e2\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S4E02 \u2013 AH &#8211; &#8220;After Hours&#8221; with James Como"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/S4E02-YouTube.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-77947\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/S4E02-YouTube.png 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/S4E02-YouTube-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/S4E02-YouTube-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since we&#8217;re beginning a new season and a new book, we thought it would be wise to introduce new listeners to the life of C.S. Lewis. To this end, we invited onto the show <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jamescomo.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">James Como<\/a>, a founding member of the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nycslsociety.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">New York C. S. Lewis Society<\/a>, to talk about his latest book, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/C-S-Lewis-Introduction-Introductions\/dp\/0198828241\" target=\"_blank\">C.S. Lewis: A Very Short Introduction<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>S3E02: \u201cAfter Hours&#8221; with James Como<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/PWJ-S4E2.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/PWJ-S4E2.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\">manually<\/a>, or\u00a0any place where good podcasts can be found (<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>,\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Pints-with-Jack\/dp\/B08K57WLYB\/\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\">Podbean<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\">TuneIn<\/a> and <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1289456381\/pints-with-jack\" target=\"_blank\">Overcast<\/a>), as well as on\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCcYFlFuyOmYL6LcuicqzULw\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a>. The roadmap for Season 4 is\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/pints-with-jack-season-4\/\">available here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">More information about us can be found on our website,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pintswithjack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">PintsWithJack.com<\/a>. If you\u2019d like to support us and get fantastic gifts,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/pintswithjack\">please join us on Patreon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The roadmap for Season 4 is&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/pints-with-jack-season-4\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"74416\">available here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Time Stamps<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">00:00:00 \u2013 <em>Entering \u201cThe Eagle &amp; Child\u201d\u2026<\/em><br>00:00:11 \u2013 <em>Welcome<\/em><br>00:01:00 \u2013 <em>Introducing James Como<\/em><br>00:02:56 \u2013 <em>Quote-of-the-week<\/em><br>00:03:22 \u2013 <em>Drink-of-the-week<\/em><br>00:04:05 \u2013 <em>Introduction to Lewis&nbsp;<\/em><br>00:09:56 \u2013 <em>New York C.S. Lewis Society<\/em><br>00:14:48 \u2013 <em>Lewis overview<\/em><br>00:24:26 \u2013 <em>New Lewis readers<\/em><br>00:28:37 \u2013 <em>Lewis Misconceptions<\/em><br>00:36:19 \u2013 <em>James&#8217; book<\/em><br>00:50:45 \u2013 <em>Till We Have Faces<\/em><br>00:55:18 \u2013 <em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em><br>01:03:28 \u2013 <em>Contact information <\/em><br>01:06:26 \u2013 <em>&#8220;Last Call&#8221; Bell and Closing Remarks<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>YouTube Version<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6M4Hs5qUXlY?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>After Show Skype Session<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>No Skype Session today!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Show Notes<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Opening<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>I introduced Professor Como:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Professor James Como holds the Ph.D. in Language, Literature and Rhetoric from Columbia University and now is Professor Emeritus of Rhetoric and Public Communication at York College (CUNY). He was a founding member of the New York C. S. Lewis Society in 1969. He has written four books about C.S. Lewis which include: <br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Remembering-C-S-Lewis-Recollections-Those\/dp\/1586171089\/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;qid=1597851102&amp;refinements=p_27%3AJames+Como&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1&amp;text=James+Como\">Remembering C.S. Lewis<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Why-Believe-Narnia-Reviews-Essays\/dp\/0972322183\/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&amp;qid=1597851102&amp;refinements=p_27%3AJames+Como&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-5&amp;text=James+Como\">Why I Believe in Narnia<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Branches-Heaven-James-Como\/dp\/1890626015\/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&amp;qid=1597851102&amp;refinements=p_27%3AJames+Como&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-6&amp;text=James+Como\">Branches to Heaven<\/a><br> \u2026and the book which we\u2019ll speak most about today, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/C-S-Lewis-Introduction-Introductions-ebook\/dp\/B07L5QNN13\">C. S. Lewis: A Very Short Introduction VSI)<\/a>. <br><br>These books, along with his many journal articles on Lewis and on-air commentary for five biographical documentaries have established Professor Como as one of the most highly-regarded Lewis scholars in the world and we\u2019re honoured to welcome him here today\u2026.<\/p><cite>Biographical information about James Como<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>In the introduction, I mentioned Professor Como&#8217;s <em>&#8220;on-air commentary for five biographical documentaries&#8221;<\/em>. You can see them here:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-ZAMuiB_dlk?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Although we didn&#8217;t talk about it i the episode, I&#8217;d encourage listeners to check out a recent interview Professor Como gave on <a href=\"https:\/\/watch.tbn.org\/the-eric-metaxas-radio-show\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Eric Metaxas Show<\/a>:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/AA-PZ-2JIYQ?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Today&#8217;s episode began by explaining how my path crossed Professor Como&#8217;s about a year ago. I had watched the documentary <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/cYzCd5dp1SI?t=86\">Narnia\u2019s Lost Poet<\/a> where A.N. Wilson made the claim that Lewis failed his driving test seventeen times.&nbsp;This claim seemed to me more than a little far-fetched, so I asked around on Facebook to see if anyone knew of evidence to support this claim.&nbsp;Someone (I think it was actually co-host Andrew Lazo) suggested I reach out to Professor Como to see if you knew anything about it.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Since Dr. Como wrote a &#8220;Very Short Introduction&#8221; to C.S. Lewis, I chose an appropriate quote-of-the-week:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>In the very process of eliminating from your matter all that is technical, learned, or allusive, you will discover, perhaps for the first time, the true value of learned language: namely, brevity.<\/em><\/p><cite><em>C.S. Lewis, Before We Can Communicate<\/em><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>For the drink-of-the-week, I was drinking <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vat_69\" target=\"_blank\">Vat 69<\/a> and James was drinking an <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liquor.com\/recipes\/aperol-spritz\/\" target=\"_blank\">Aperol Spritz<\/a>. With these drinks we toasted our latest Gold-level supporter, Sam M:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>&#8220;May neighbors respect you, Trouble neglect you, The angels protect you, And heaven accept you.&#8221;<\/em><\/p><cite>Toast to Patreon supporter, Sam M<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">History with Lewis<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>I asked James how he was first introduced to Lewis. His first book was <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B08HQVK47K\" target=\"_blank\">An Experiment In Criticism<\/a>. Next he read <em>The Great Divorce<\/em>. Five years later, while sick in bed he read the Narnian Chronicles. <\/li><li>Professor Como explained that he was one of the founding members of the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nycslsociety.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">New York C.S. Lewis Society<\/a> in 1969. When he spoke about meeting other Lewis fans on the subway, he alludes to a line from <em>The Four Loves<\/em>:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>The typical expression of opening Friendship would be something like, &#8220;What? You too? I thought I was the only one.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Four Loves (Chapter 4)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lewis&#8217; Life<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Since we may have new listeners at the beginning of this Season, I asked James to give us a thumbnail sketch of Lewis\u2019 life and work. During his presentation, he quotes <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bob_Jones_Sr.\" target=\"_blank\">Bob Jones<\/a> when he was asked about C.S. Lewis:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u201cThat man smokes a pipe, and that man drinks liquor \u2013 but I do believe he is a Christian!\u201d<\/p><cite>Bob Jones on C.S. Lewis<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Professor Como mentioned Lewis&#8217; correspondence with Catholic Saint, Giovanni Calabria. Their correspondence can be in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Latin-Letters-C-S-Lewis\/dp\/1587314576\">The Latin Letters<\/a>.<\/li><li>Several times in the interview, James alludes to Lewis&#8217; poem, <em>The Apologist&#8217;s Evening Prayer<\/em>:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>From all my lame defeats and oh! much more <br>From all the victories that I seemed to score; <br>From cleverness shot forth on Thy behalf <br>At which, while angels weep, the audience laugh; <br>From all my proofs of Thy divinity, <br>Thou, who wouldst give no sign, deliver me. <br><br>Thoughts are but coins. Let me not trust, instead <br>Of Thee, their thin-worn image of Thy head. <br>From all my thoughts, even from my thoughts of Thee, <br>O thou fair Silence, fall, and set me free. <br>Lord of the narrow gate and the needle\u2019s eye, <br>Take from me all my trumpery lest I die.<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Apologist&#8217;s Evening Prayer<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Books and Misconceptions<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Over the course of the interview, James mentions several books:<ul><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Into-Region-Awe-Mysticism-Lewis\/dp\/083083284X\" target=\"_blank\">Into the Region of Awe<\/a> by David Downing<\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B0028XAF3E\" target=\"_blank\">Jack<\/a> by George Sayers<\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0802818145\/\" target=\"_blank\">Reading with the heart: The way into Narnia<\/a> by Peter J Schakel<\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/C-S-Lewis-Apostle-Skeptics-Secondary\/dp\/1556358830\" target=\"_blank\">Apostle to the Skeptics<\/a> by Chad Walsh<\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0007157142\" target=\"_blank\">C.S. Lewis: A Biography<\/a> by Roger Lancelyn Green<\/li><li>Communication ability <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Rhetoric-Certitude-Lewiss-Nonfiction-Prose-ebook\/dp\/B00J7OL608\" target=\"_blank\">The Rhetoric of Certitude<\/a> by Tandy.<\/li><\/ul><\/li><li>When asked about Lewis misconceptions, Professor Como reminded us that Lewis is a complicated chap. He also suggested that the dispute with <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/G._E._M._Anscombe\" target=\"_blank\">Elizabeth Anscombe<\/a> was overblown. He also recommended that readers pay close attention to Lewis&#8217; poetry, and mentioned Jerry Root&#8217;s upcoming book, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Splendour-Dark-Lewiss-Hansen-Lectureship\/dp\/0830853758\" target=\"_blank\">Splendor In The Dark<\/a>.  <\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A very short introduction<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>We then changed gears and talked about Professor Como&#8217;s latest book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/C-S-Lewis-Introduction-Introductions-ebook\/dp\/B07L5QNN13\">C. S. Lewis: A Very Short Introduction<\/a>. I explained that I had the book on pre-order, but gave it away during a talk before I had a chance to read it! I bought the audio book instead (and commented  later that the voice actor mispronounced &#8220;Magdalen College&#8221;). <\/li><li>I asked Professor Como how he came to write the VSI. He explained that he had enjoyed the series before and contacted the publisher. A year later he got a response from the editor!<\/li><li>One reviewer said that the &#8220;thousand point of light&#8221; line from George Bush did not come from The Magician&#8217;s Nephew. However&#8230;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>One moment there had been nothing but darkness; next moment a thousand, thousand points of light leaped out\u2014single stars, constellations, and planets, brighter and bigger than any in our world.&nbsp;<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, The Magician&#8217;s Nephew (Chapter 8)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>James admitted to making a mistake in his book when he said  Shift dressed up as a lion in <em>The Last Battle<\/em>, when it was actually the donkey, Puzzle.<\/li><li>We discussed the anecdote about Lewis giving money and his companion complaining that the man would just spend it on beer.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Till We Have Faces and The Screwtape Letters<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Last season we read <em>Till We Have Faces<\/em> . I had heard Professor Como was a fan so I asked him about it.  <ul><li>He pointed out that the Fox&#8217;s name, Lysias, was also the name of a Greek Orator who gave a speech against <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Thirty_Tyrants\" target=\"_blank\">Thirty Tyrants<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul><ul><li>James told the story of how Andrew beat him in a Till-We-Have-Faces-off). <\/li><\/ul><ul><li>He pointed out how talk eventually comes to the end:<\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Only words, words; to be led out to battle against other words<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, Till We Have Faces (Part II, Chapter 4)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>I asked Andrew for his advice to readers of <em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em>. He encouraged us to patient and to take our time. He also pointed out a few variations he saw in the written manuscript of the book:<ul><li>&#8220;Celestial Woman&#8221;<\/li><li>Spelling of &#8220;rivet&#8221;<\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Ending with Scripture<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Professor Como ended the interview by offering a few of Scriptural quotations:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>For this slight momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, because we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen; for the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal<\/p><cite>2 Corinthians 4:17-18<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope.<\/p><cite>Romans 15:13<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>We have this as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul, a hope that enters into the inner shrine behind the curtain, where Jesus has gone as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest for ever after the order of Melchiz\u2032edek.<\/p><cite>Hebrews 6:19-20<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Find Out More&#8230;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>To find out more about Professor Como, please see his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jamescomo.com\/\">website<\/a>. He also has several videos on his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC9iOgMR4mFPt38ruZVKhknw\">YouTube channel<\/a> and his books are available on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/C-S-Lewis-Introduction-Introductions-ebook\/dp\/B07L5QNN13\">Amazon<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since we&#8217;re beginning a new season and a new book, we thought it would be wise to introduce new listeners to the life of C.S. Lewis. To this end, we invited onto the show James Como, a founding member of the New York C. S. Lewis Society, to talk about his latest book, &#8220;C.S. 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