{"id":76156,"date":"2020-05-06T07:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-05-06T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=76156"},"modified":"2020-05-06T09:42:51","modified_gmt":"2020-05-06T16:42:51","slug":"what-have-you-got-against-christianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2020\/05\/06\/what-have-you-got-against-christianity\/","title":{"rendered":"What have you got against Christianity?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;m friends on Facebook with a gentleman who was one of the assistant ministers at a Protestant parish I used to attend. He has since become the vicar of a different parish in another part of the country. For the purposes of this post, I&#8217;m going to call him <em>Father Tow<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A few weeks ago, I had a rather strange conversation with Father Tow. It was prompted by his posting the following image on Facebook:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/I-believe-in-Christ.jpg?fit=860%2C860\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-76157\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/I-believe-in-Christ.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/I-believe-in-Christ-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/I-believe-in-Christ-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/I-believe-in-Christ-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/I-believe-in-Christ-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/I-believe-in-Christ-90x90.jpg 90w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/I-believe-in-Christ-75x75.jpg 75w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Being a huge C.S. Lewis fan, I immediately recognized that this was a common misquotation. What Lewis actually wrote was:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u201cI believe in <strong>Christianity<\/strong> as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it but because by it, I see everything else.\u201d<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, \u201cIs Theology Poetry?\u201d, The Weight of Glory<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I therefore commented on the picture, saying that it&#8217;s a great quotation, but that it&#8217;s not quite what Lewis wrote. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Don&#8217;t like &#8220;Christianity&#8221;?!<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> I was therefore rather puzzled by Father Tow&#8217;s strange reply:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>I know. I changed it! I&#8217;ve seen it changed elsewhere. I don&#8217;t like the term &#8216;Christianity&#8217;. I don&#8217;t believe in &#8216;Christianity&#8217;.<\/p><cite>Father Tow<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I replied that that it doesn&#8217;t seem right to me to share a quotation which one has changed to suit one&#8217;s own sensibilities and then to attach an author&#8217;s name to it and share it, even though that&#8217;s not actually what they wrote. If one insists on doing this sort of thing, I think it&#8217;s better to at least give the reader an indication that it has been altered by putting the changed word in square brackets:<em> &#8220;I believe in [Christ] as I believe&#8230;&#8221;<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As an aside, the Grammar Nazi in me also didn&#8217;t like the fact that changing the noun in the quotation means the pronouns no longer agree. Christianity is an &#8220;it&#8221;, but Christ is a &#8220;He&#8221;. So, while I still don&#8217;t like it, it would have been better to render the quotation as follows:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8220;I believe in [Christ] as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see [Him], but because by [Him] I see everything else&#8221;<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis*<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I ended by saying that I found the objection to &#8220;Christianity&#8221; rather curious. I said that it reminded me of those folks who say things like <em>&#8220;Christianity isn&#8217;t a religion, it&#8217;s a relationship&#8221;<\/em>, a claim which I&#8217;ve found to be <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2012\/01\/13\/religion\/\" target=\"_blank\">pretty untenable<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Christianity isn&#8217;t a religion?!<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second reply I received was equally strange:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>It&#8217;s not a religion either. Its[sic] beyond religion. It&#8217;s the Way of Yeshua. He didn&#8217;t come to start a religion called Christianity. He came to announce the coming of the Kingdom. It is naughty of me to mess with Lewis&#8217;s words though! [&#8230;]<\/p><cite>Father Tow<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I appreciated that Father Tow recognized that he probably shouldn&#8217;t be editing Lewis&#8217; quotations. While I have some sympathy with the <em>sentiment<\/em> behind the rest of his reply, it did strike me as needlessly fussy. It just seemed that he was replacing perfectly serviceable, historical and venerable labels such as <em>&#8220;Christianity&#8221;<\/em> with ones of his own making like<em>&#8220;The Way of Yeshua&#8221;<\/em>, even if it has some Scriptural basis (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Acts+19:23&amp;version=RSVCE\">Acts 19:23<\/a>).  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As for objecting to the term &#8220;religion&#8221;, if Sacred Scripture regards Christian belief and practice as a religion, surely that should be good enough for us? Why quibble over words which have been&nbsp;God-breathed? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Religion<\/strong> that God our Father accepts as <strong>pure<\/strong> and <strong>faultless<\/strong> is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world <\/p><cite>James 1:27<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For 2,000 years, Christians have historically referred to their belief system as &#8220;Christianity&#8221; without this kind of fuss. This included great mystics such as St. John of the Cross and St. Teresa of Avila who undoubtably had the most intimate relationships with Jesus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What about &#8220;Christian&#8221;?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I was sensing a theme at this point, so I wondered out loud what he thought of the term &#8220;Christian&#8221;. My suspicion was that he wasn&#8217;t a fan, probably preferring another of his own formulations, such as &#8220;Follower of the Way of Yeshua&#8221;. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Aside from the fact that the Early Church quickly embraced the name of &#8220;Christian&#8221;, we seen the early martyrs expressed no consternation over the name. For example, on his way to be thrown to wild beasts, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2010\/07\/26\/st-ignatius-of-antioch\/\" target=\"_blank\">St. Ignatius of Antioch <\/a>wrote to the Romans:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8220;I only ask that you beg for me inward and outward strength, <strong>that I may not only be called a Christian<\/strong>, but truly found to be one&#8221;<\/p><cite>St. Ignatius to the Romans (AD ~107)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I also pointed out that we also see the greatest theological minds of the Church regard &#8220;Christian&#8221; as the greatest of names. In Sermon 43, St. Gregory of Nazianzen (~AD 381) <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2013\/01\/28\/group-pilgrimage\/\" target=\"_blank\">spoke about his youthful friendship with St. Basil<\/a> and their shared goal:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8220;&#8230;our great pursuit,<strong> the great name we wanted<\/strong>, was to be Christians, to be called Christians&#8221;<\/p><cite>St. Gregory of Nazianzen, Sermon 43 (AD ~381)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unfortunately, I never received any confirmation from Father Tow on this point because he offered no further replies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Changed Meaning?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, one of Father Tow&#8217;s friends offered this comment about the word &#8220;religion&#8221;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>I feel that &#8220;religion&#8221; as used these days has changed meaning somewhat tending towards a boxed-in, rule following (or you&#8217;re damned) way of life.<\/p><cite>Friend of Father Tow<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I responded by saying that &#8220;religion&#8221; is a fine word, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=TLta2b9zQ64\" target=\"_blank\">both etymologically and Scripturally<\/a>, and I don&#8217;t see why it should be abandoned just because secularists use it as a pejorative. I reminded him that the name &#8220;Christian&#8221; most likely began life as a term of derision used by Pagans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Rules rule!<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In some forms of Protestantism there is a trendy Christian subculture which likes to speak against &#8220;rules&#8221;. This was behind his comment about being &#8220;<em>boxed-in, rule following (or you&#8217;re damned) way of life<\/em>&#8220;<em>.<\/em> Once again, I appreciate the <em>sentiment<\/em> behind the whole anti-rule-following outlook, but I really don&#8217;t think it makes much sense to speak like this. At its very worst, it&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Antinomianism\">Antinomian<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I asked him what Jesus said would happen if I didn&#8217;t forgive your neighbour? Would he regard this as a &#8220;rule&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>if you do not&nbsp;forgive&nbsp;men their trespasses, neither will your&nbsp;Father&nbsp;forgive&nbsp;your trespasses.<\/p><cite>Matthew 6:15<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Likewise, I asked him what Jesus said would happen if I ignored the poor? Would he regard this as a &#8220;rule&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Then they also will answer, \u2018Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?\u2019&nbsp;Then he will answer them, \u2018Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.\u2019&nbsp; And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.\u201d<\/p><cite>Matthew 25:44-46<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I tried to explain that there are &#8220;rules&#8221; in even the most intimate of relationships. For example, consider the covenant of marriage. Here there are many &#8220;rules&#8221;. For example, one rule is that you will be intimate with your spouse and no other. However, far from being a negative, this &#8220;rule&#8221; protects the relationship and gives it life! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While I&#8217;m sure that the aversion to &#8220;Christianity&#8221;, &#8220;rules&#8221; and &#8220;religion&#8221; comes from a place of wanting to seek authenticity and to cast off cultural connotations and make Christianity more palatable and relatable to non-Christians, it just seems like pandering and I think it&#8217;s not a very defensible position intellectually.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unfortunately, like Father Tow, I received no response to my reply.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Ooops&#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I had written the article you are reading about a week and a half before it was due to be published. In the intervening time, Father Tow posted another quotation on Facebook:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>Hope has two<\/em>&nbsp;beautiful&nbsp;<em>daughters<\/em>; their names are Anger and Courage<\/p><cite>Augustine of Hippo<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I commented saying that it&#8217;s a beautiful quotation, often rendered: <em>&#8220;Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are&#8221;<\/em>. However, I also pointed out that I&#8217;ve read some of St. Augustine&#8217;s works and this doesn&#8217;t really sound like him. Not only that, I&#8217;ve never seen this quotation with a citation attached pointing to the work from which the quotation is supposedly drawn. So, while it&#8217;s a beautiful quotation, it&#8217;s very likely not St. Augustine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Within an hour, Father Tow had unfriended me on Facebook. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s annoying to have someone point out your alleged mistakes, but shouldn&#8217;t that just motivate you to take greater care about checking your sources?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"676\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Lincoln.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-76290\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Lincoln.jpg 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Lincoln-300x236.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Lincoln-768x604.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A conversation about quotation takes a very odd turn and I end up being unfriended on Facebook&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":76287,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17],"tags":[5012,41,2969,822],"class_list":["post-76156","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-faith","tag-c-s-lewis-2","tag-christianity","tag-featured","tag-quotations"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/I-believe-in-Christ.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76156","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=76156"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76156\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":76334,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76156\/revisions\/76334"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/76287"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=76156"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=76156"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=76156"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}