{"id":73666,"date":"2019-09-24T07:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-09-24T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=73666"},"modified":"2020-01-06T22:31:32","modified_gmt":"2020-01-07T05:31:32","slug":"pints-with-jack-s2e31","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2019\/09\/24\/pints-with-jack-s2e31\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S2E31 &#8211; AA &#8211; Patti Callahan"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"860\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-73671\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes.jpg 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes-90x90.jpg 90w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes-75x75.jpg 75w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At the beginning of Season 2, <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2019\/02\/05\/pints-with-jack-s2e4-after-hours-with-patti-callahan\/\">I interviewed author Patti Callahan<\/a> about her latest book, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Becoming Mrs. Lewis (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Becoming-Mrs-Lewis-Improbable-Davidman\/dp\/0785218092\" target=\"_blank\">Becoming Mrs. Lewis<\/a>. Now at the close of the Season, Patti returns to talk to Matt about her own podcast, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Behind the Scenes of Becoming Mrs. Lewis (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patticallahanhenry.com\/podcast-episodes\" target=\"_blank\">Behind the Scenes of Becoming Mrs. Lewis<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>S2E30: \u201cAfter Hours\u201d with Patti Callahan<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/TEAC-S2E31.mp3\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/TEAC-S2E31.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\">manually<\/a>, or&nbsp;any place where good podcasts can be found&nbsp;(<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\">Podbean<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\">TuneIn<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1289456381\/pints-with-jack\" target=\"_blank\">Overcast<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Time Stamps<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">01:00\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Matt&#8217;s Introduction<\/em><br>02:47\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Drink and quote of the week<\/em><br>06:57\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Overview of &#8220;Becoming Mrs. Lewis&#8221;<\/em><br>10:37\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Joy, the false self and &#8220;Till We Have Faces&#8221;<\/em><br>19:39\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Lewis&#8217; own journey<\/em><br>21:44\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Lewis, personal faults and Mrs. Moore<\/em><br>27:05\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>What has happened since your last appearance here?<\/em><br>30:46\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>How did this new podcast come about?<\/em><br>33:11\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Who will you be interviewing?<\/em><br>37:41\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Joy&#8217;s poetry<\/em><br>41:07\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>What did you learn in the process of putting together the podcast?<\/em><br>43:40\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Will there be a movie of the book?<\/em><br>48:43\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>How has this project transformed you?<\/em><br>49:56\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>Patti&#8217;s talks at an upcoming retreat<\/em><br>54:16\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<em>What else is on the horizon for you?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Show Notes<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2022 I had previously interviewed Patti <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2019\/02\/05\/pints-with-jack-s2e4-after-hours-with-patti-callahan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"at the beginning of the Season (opens in a new tab)\">at the beginning of the Season<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2022 The drink-of-the-week was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.themacallan.com\/en\/whisky\/single-malts\/sherry-oak\/sherry-oak-12-years-old\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Macallan 12 (opens in a new tab)\">Macallan 12<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2022 The quote-of-the-week was from <em>Till We Have Faces:<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8220;I know now, Lord, why you utter no answer. You are yourself the answer. Before your face questions die away. What other answer would suffice?&#8221;<\/p><cite>C.S. Lewis, <em>Till We Have Faces<\/em><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2022 Patti quoted Carl Jung:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u201cUntil you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.\u201d<\/p><cite>C.G. Jung<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2022 When discussing Joy&#8217;s poetry, Patti references Joy&#8217;s poem &#8220;Yet One More Spring&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2022 Matt mentioned that Patti&#8217;s book reminded him of <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Severe-Mercy-Sheldon-Vanauken\/dp\/0060688246\/\" target=\"_blank\">A Severe Mercy<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2022 Patti described her upcoming role at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cslewis.org\/programs\/retreat\/cslretreat2019\/schedule\/\">2019 C.S. Lewis Retreat<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2022 Find out more about Patti by visiting <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patticallahanhenry.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"her website (opens in a new tab)\">her website<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At the beginning of Season 2, I interviewed author Patti Callahan about her latest book, Becoming Mrs. Lewis. Now at the close of the Season, Patti returns to talk to Matt about her own podcast, Behind the Scenes of Becoming Mrs. Lewis.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":73672,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3111],"tags":[5107,5012,2969,4705,4482,5108,116,4438],"class_list":["post-73666","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast","tag-becoming-mrs-lewis","tag-c-s-lewis-2","tag-featured","tag-joy-davidman","tag-matt-bush","tag-patti-callahan","tag-podcast","tag-the-eagle-and-child-podcast"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Behind-The-Scenes-1.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73666","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=73666"}],"version-history":[{"count":42,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73666\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":73726,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73666\/revisions\/73726"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/73672"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=73666"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=73666"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=73666"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}