{"id":67909,"date":"2019-07-15T07:00:41","date_gmt":"2019-07-15T14:00:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=67909"},"modified":"2019-07-30T11:54:54","modified_gmt":"2019-07-30T18:54:54","slug":"frank-tureks-blind-spot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2019\/07\/15\/frank-tureks-blind-spot\/","title":{"rendered":"Frank Turek&#8217;s Blind Spot"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"facebook\" src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi_webp\/d-X1WqENdrc\/maxresdefault.webp\" alt=\"YouTube Thumbnail\">\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I enjoy a lot of <a href=\"https:\/\/crossexamined.org\/\">Frank Turek&#8217;s apologetics<\/a> and listen to <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"his weekly podcast (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/crossexamined.org\/podcasts\/\" target=\"_blank\">his weekly podcast<\/a>, but he really does have a few blind spots. I recently came across this video which shows that the canon of Scripture is one such blind spot&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/d-X1WqENdrc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What he says here concerning the discernment of the canon isn&#8217;t entirely false, but he offers a very insufficient description of what took place. It was the Catholic Church who determined the canon in the early centuries of the Church. In fact, it&#8217;s a bit embarrassing that it&#8217;s the questioner who is the first person to bring up these councils!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">His statement about the Protestant Bible lining up with the Jewish Old Testament is too simplistic, so much so that it&#8217;s misleading. The Protestant Old Testament matches the canon of the Jews <strong>today<\/strong>&#8230; but not of <strong>all<\/strong> the Jews in the <strong>First Century<\/strong>! After all, there were a number of different Jewish sects in the First Century, such as the Sadducees, Pharisees and Essenes. Each of these groups had a different canon of Scripture&#8230;<br><br>Now, the Protestant canon matches the canon settled by the rabbis in the Second Century, following the establishment of the Church and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.  However, this begs the question: why should Christians accept the opinion of this <strong>particular<\/strong> Jewish group? After all, these are the successors to those who rejected that Jesus was the Messiah! If they didn&#8217;t recognize the Word incarnate, why would they necessarily correctly recognise the written Word of God? Not only that, wouldn&#8217;t they have motivation to exclude books from the canon which <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"very clearly prophesy the suffering of Christ (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2012\/06\/27\/why-wouldnt-you-want-this-in-your-bible\/\" target=\"_blank\">very clearly prophesy the suffering of Jesus<\/a>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The really egregious error in this video is Frank&#8217;s assertion that Roman Catholics <strong>added books to the Bible at the Council of Trent<\/strong>. That claim is patently false and honestly I&#8217;d expect more from an apologist of Frank&#8217;s calibre. Catholics did <strong>not <\/strong>add books to the Bible at the Reformation, the Protestants <strong>removed them<\/strong>.  This is just <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"one of the many bad arguments (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2014\/09\/06\/quick-apology-the-deuterocanon\/\" target=\"_blank\">one of the worst arguments<\/a> used against the Deuterocanon. Incidentally, Luther even tried to <strong>remove books from the New Testament<\/strong>, such as the Epistle of James because he couldn&#8217;t reconcile it with his novel theology of <em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Sola Fide (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2013\/10\/31\/faith-alone\/\" target=\"_blank\">Sola Fide<\/a><\/em>\u2026 <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Catholic Bible aligns itself to the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament which is the translation most often quoted by the New Testament authors themselves. The Catholic Canon was declared by <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2014\/11\/18\/canon-of-scripture\/\">the early councils of the Church<\/a>, as well as later ones such as The Council of Florence (AD 1431). You don&#8217;t have to wait for the Council of Trent (AD 1545).  For further proof of this, just ask a Coptic or Eastern Orthodox Christian if they have the Deuterocanonical books in their Bible. These Churches separated from the Catholic Church long before the Reformation, yet still have these Deuterocanonical books&#8230;conclusive proof that what Frank said here is incorrect.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I enjoy a lot of Frank Turek&#8217;s apologetics and listen to his weekly podcast, but he really does have a few blind spots. 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