{"id":67496,"date":"2018-04-24T07:00:04","date_gmt":"2018-04-24T14:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=67496"},"modified":"2020-01-06T22:42:00","modified_gmt":"2020-01-07T05:42:00","slug":"the-eagle-and-child-s1e24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2018\/04\/24\/the-eagle-and-child-s1e24\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S1E24 &#8211; MC B3C11 &#8211; &#8220;Faith&#8221; (Part 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-67500\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Faith.jpg\" alt=\"Faith\" width=\"850\" height=\"479\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Faith.jpg 850w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Faith-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Faith-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Faith-600x338.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>For the&nbsp;last two chapters of Book III we will be looking at the final theological virtue of &#8220;faith&#8221;. This chapter focuses on faith in terms of holding onto rational truths despite raging emotions.<\/p>\n<p>If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">manually<\/a>, or&nbsp;any place where good podcasts can be found&nbsp;(<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">iTunes<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Google Play<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Podbean<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stitcher<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TuneIn<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Please send any objections, comments or questions, either via email&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/contact\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">through my website<\/a>&nbsp;or tweet us&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pintswithjack\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@pintswithjack<\/a>. Be sure to follow&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/pintswithjack\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">our new Instagram account<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Episode 24: &#8220;Faith&#8221; (Part 1)<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/TEAC-S1E24.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-67496-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/TEAC-S1E24.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/TEAC-S1E24.mp3\">http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/TEAC-S1E24.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>&#8212; Show Notes &#8212;<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 My outline for&nbsp;today&#8217;s chapter is available&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2017\/09\/22\/mere-christianity-b3c11\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>. Unfortunately, there isn\u2019t a C.S. Lewis Doodle for it.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Lewis spends most of this chapter dealing with the first definition of faith. He does begin talking about the second kind of faith, but he&#8217;ll deal with it primarily in the next chapter, the final part of Book III.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 In this episode we will be answering the following questions:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Q1. What is faith?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Q2. Why is it a virtue?<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 The quote-of-the-week:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;If we wish to be rational, not now and then, but constantly, we must pray for the gift of faith, for the power to go on believing, not in the teeth of reason, but in the teeth of lust, in terror, in jealousy, in boredom, in indifference, that which reason, authority and experience (or all three) have once delivered to us for truth&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis,&nbsp;Christian Reflections<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Matt is currently doing <a href=\"https:\/\/exodus90.com\/\">Exodus 90<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 The drink-of-the-week was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.themacallan.com\/the-whisky\/sherry-oak\/sherry-oak-12\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Macallen 12<\/a>. Here are the tasting notes Matt read:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><strong>Appearance:<\/strong> Deep amber with strong legs. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><strong>Nose:<\/strong> Oaky and hot right off the pour. Loads of oak and perfume reads as somewhat bitter at first, with notes reminiscent of an amaretto sour and a hint of spiced plums. The nose softens dramatically after a few minutes, settling into dark sherry and plum sweetness. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><strong>Palate:<\/strong> Sweet and full, but not overly complex. Lots of sherry, plums, powdered sugar, cinnamon and nutmeg give it a silky, round mouthfeel. The finish is quick, with a mild burn and a long, lingering presence of sweetness reminding me of iced cinnamon rolls.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>Defintion #1<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 The first definition of faith Jack looks at is faith in the sense of holding onto a belief, despite changes in mood and emotion.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 When Lewis was an atheist, he never understood why faith was regarded as a virtue. After all, if there is good evidence for something, then what is praiseworthy about believing it? And in contrast, if the evidence is stacked against a belief, you&#8217;d be stupid to hold to it! Jack&#8217;s mistake here was assuming that humans are purely rational creatures:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">I was assuming that if the human mind once accepts a thing as true it will automatically go on regarding it as true, until some real reason for reconsidering it turns up. In fact, I was assuming that the human mind is completely ruled by reason. But that is not so.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Example #1:&nbsp;anaesthetics. His reason knows that he isn&#8217;t being smothered and his reason knows that he will be unconscious before the operation begins. However, his emotions rebel against this.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">I start thinking I am going to choke, and I am afraid they will start cutting me up before I am properly under. In other words, I lose my faith in anaesthetics. It is not reason that is taking away my faith: on the contrary, my faith is based on reason. It is my imagination and emotions. The battle is between faith and reason on one side and emotion and imagination on the other.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Example #2:&nbsp;A guy talking to a pretty girl and his rational belief that she is a gossip goes out of the window as his emotions get the better of him.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Example #3: A boy learning to swim. He knows he can float, but when the instructor takes away his hand, he panics.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 I gave my own example. When I went skydiving, I knew that it was safe, but the safety statistics I had read were quickly forgotten when I found myself standing by an open plane door with the ground far below&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Jack then explains how this happens with Christianity&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8230;supposing a man&#8217;s reason once decides that the weight of the evidence is for it. I can tell that man what is going to happen to him in the next few weeks. There will come a moment when there is bad news, or he is in trouble, or is living among a lot of other people who do not believe it, and all at once his emotions will rise up and carry out a sort of blitz on his belief. Or else there will come a moment when he wants a woman, or wants to tell a lie, or feels very pleased with himself, or sees a chance of making a little money in some way that is not perfectly fair: some moment, in fact, at which it would be very convenient if Christianity were not true.&nbsp;And once again his wishes and desires will carry out a blitz.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Matt gave the example of St. Teresa of Calcutta, who remained faithful to God, despite some dark years.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 The rebellion of your moods is going to come regardless, whether you are a Christian or an atheist. As a result, we have to train ourselves&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>1.&nbsp;Prayer\/Study<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8230;make sure that, if you have once accepted Christianity, then some of its main doctrines shall be deliberately held before your mind for some time every day&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>2. Church attendance<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8230;That is why daily prayers and religious reading and church going are necessary parts of the Christian life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><span id=\"en-NIV-30158\" class=\"text Heb-10-24\">And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds,&nbsp;<\/span><span id=\"en-NIV-30159\" class=\"text Heb-10-25\">not giving up meeting together,&nbsp;as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another\u2014and all the more as you see the Day approaching. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em><span id=\"en-NIV-30159\" class=\"text Heb-10-25\">&#8211; Hebrews 10:24-25<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Departure from Christianity is usually a&nbsp;slow fade:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">if you examined a hundred people who had lost their faith in Christianity, I wonder how many of them would turn out to have been reasoned out of it by honest argument? Do not most people simply drift away?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>Defintion #2<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 The second definition of faith relates to our spiritual bankruptcy.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 In an earlier chapter, Jack explained that, in order to become humble, one must first realize one is prideful. He now goes on to say that the next step is to try and&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">really<\/span> live out the Christian virtues:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">Try six weeks. By that time, having, as far as one can see, fallen back completely or even fallen lower than the point one began from, one will have discovered some truths about oneself. No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Only good people really understand temptation:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is. After all, you find out the strength of the German army by fighting against it, not by giving in&#8230; A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness&#8230;&nbsp;Christ, because He was the only man who never yielded to temptation, is also the only man who knows to the full what temptation means-the only complete realist<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022&nbsp;This teaches us two things:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">(a) We can&#8217;t earn salvation<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">If there was any idea that God had set us a sort of exam, and that we might get good marks by deserving them, that has to be wiped out. If there was any idea of a sort of bargain-any idea that we could perform our side of the contract and thus put God in our debts so that it was up to Him, in mere justice, to perform His side-that has to be wiped out&#8230;&nbsp;God has been waiting for the moment at which you discover that there is no question of earning a pass mark in this exam, or putting Him in your debt.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Book III, Chapter 11)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">(b) We can never give God anything which isn&#8217;t already his.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">Then comes another discovery. Every faculty you have, your power of thinking or of moving your limbs from moment to moment, is given you by God. If you devoted every moment of your whole life exclusively to His service you could not give Him anything that was not in a sense His own already.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>&#8211; C.S. 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