{"id":66738,"date":"2018-01-21T07:00:27","date_gmt":"2018-01-21T14:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=66738"},"modified":"2020-01-06T22:43:02","modified_gmt":"2020-01-07T05:43:02","slug":"the-eagle-and-child-s1e17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2018\/01\/21\/the-eagle-and-child-s1e17\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S1E17 &#8211; MC B3C5 &#8211; &#8220;Sexual Morality&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-66755\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Notebook.jpg\" alt=\"Notebook\" width=\"850\" height=\"428\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Notebook.jpg 850w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Notebook-300x151.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Notebook-768x387.jpg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Notebook-600x302.jpg 600w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Notebook-420x210.jpg 420w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"alttext-container\"><img id=\"alttext-image\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" align=\"left\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p>What is the virtue of chastity? Is it unhealthy, impossible\u00a0or repressive? In today&#8217;s episode, Matt and I look at what C.S. Lewis had to say about this, the most unpopular of the virtues&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Are you following us on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/pintswithjack\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram yet<\/a>? You should! Also, if you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/TheEagleAndChildPodcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">manually<\/a>, or\u00a0any place where good podcasts can be found\u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">iTunes<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Google Play<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/podcast-detail\/wqkqe-5e798\/The+Eagle+and+Child\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Podbean<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=159766&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stitcher,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Eagle-and-Child-p1079872\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TuneIn<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1289456381\/the-eagle-and-child\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Overcast<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/castbox.fm\/vc\/1057479\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Castbox<\/a>). Please send any objections, comments or questions, either via email\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/contact\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">through my website<\/a>\u00a0or tweet us\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pintswithjack\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@pintswithjack<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Episode 17: &#8220;Sexual Morality&#8221;<\/strong>\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/TEAC-S1E17.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-66738-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/TEAC-S1E17.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/TEAC-S1E17.mp3\">http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/TEAC-S1E17.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>&#8212; Show Notes &#8212;<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 My outline for\u00a0today&#8217;s chapter is available\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2017\/09\/14\/mere-christianity-b3c5\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>. Unfortunately, there isn\u2019t a C.S. Lewis Doodle for this chapter.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Has Matt seen ANY movie?! He hasn&#8217;t even seen the classic Disney movie, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dumbo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dumbo<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 The Drink-of-the-week was, once again, a scotch.\u00a0Matt and I were enjoying <a href=\"https:\/\/www.johnniewalker.com\/en-us\/our-whisky\/johnnie-walker-labels\/green-label\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Johnnie Walker Green Label<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 This was our C.S. Lewis Quote-of-the-week:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;Joy is not a substitute for sex; sex is very often a substitute for Joy. I sometimes wonder whether all pleasures are not substitutes for Joy&#8221; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8211; C.S. Lewis, Surprised by joy<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Chastity is a virtue, just like those Cardinal Virtues we addressed in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2017\/12\/24\/the-eagle-and-child-s1e14\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Episode 14<\/a>, such as Justice, Fortitude, Prudence\u00a0and\u00a0Temperance. Chastity is the virtue by which we order our sexual desires\u00a0which enables us to love rightly.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Last week we spoke about our &#8220;raw materials&#8221; and how they impact our decision-making abilities. In today&#8217;s chapter, we look at a very specific application of this teaching with regards to the sexual instinct.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Jack begins by making a distinction between chastity and modesty\/propriety. I\u00a0personally prefer the term &#8220;propriety&#8221;, since this speaks to me more clearly of societal norms (whereas I associate &#8220;modesty&#8221; more with &#8220;chastity&#8221;). Lewis says that propriety refers to how much of the body one may show, as well as what subjects\u00a0one is\u00a0allowed to talk about and\u00a0what words we can use in\u00a0such discussions. Lewis affirms that the rules of modesty\/propriety can change, whereas the rule of chastity is constant.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 The world thinks chastity is just crazy. Over the course of this episode Matt and I are aiming\u00a0to demonstrate that it is not crazy but is, in fact, beautiful. Lewis makes the bold statement that either Christianity is wrong or our current sexual instinct has gone wrong.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0To demonstrate the disfunction of the sexual instinct, Jack points out that the sexual instinct\u00a0must <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">by necessity<\/span> be moderated. It would be possible for a man to populate an entire village in no time if it was left unmoderated!<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Jack\u00a0compares sex to food. He says that the purpose of the eating instinct is to nourish us and that the purpose of the sex instinct is for biological purposes. This is the passage Matt referred to when <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2017\/10\/01\/eagle-and-child-s1e2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">we discussed Lewis&#8217; views on contraception in the\u00a0Preface<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>To drive this point home,\u00a0Lewis describes a\u00a0country in which a striptease was performed with a piece of bacon. What would we conclude about such a country? Wouldn&#8217;t we think that their impulse with regards to food had gone awry? I dubbed this example &#8220;The steaktease&#8221;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Someone might respond that such a country must be starved of food. Hence the titivation related to food. In a\u00a0parallel way, this would explain the presence of strip clubs &#8211; they are a result of sexual starvation. However, could one really say that we&#8217;re living in an age of sexual starvation?! No, quite the opposite!<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 How did we get into this poor state? According to Lewis, it&#8217;s because we have been taught a steady stream of lies about sex for the last twenty years. Remember, he was writing in the 40&#8217;s! How much more today?!<\/p>\n<p>The lie we have been told is that &#8220;Sex is nothing to be ashamed of&#8221;? There is a kernel of truth here. The sexual act itself is nothing to be ashamed of, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that every sexual desire should be acted upon.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0The popular opinion is that Christianity looks down on sex, but Lewis challenges this opinion and argues that Christian is the religion which elevates the body and marriage the most! It is because Christianity thinks so highly of sex that it cares about its context so much:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;Each of these impulses is capable of being perverted. Fire in the hearth is good, but fire in the clothes closet is not. The sex instinct can be distorted into license and perversion. In that case, the other person is really not loved, but is used. One drinks the water; one forgets the glass\u2026&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000080\">\u2013 The Venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 I mentioned <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theologyofthebody.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Theology of the Body<\/a>, which was the corpus(!) of work produced by Pope St. John-Paull II,\u00a0during 129 of his Wednesday Audiences.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Gnosticism, the heresy of the Early Church was also mentioned, since Gnostic systems typically thought poorly of the body and of matter in general. They said it was evil.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 In contrast to sex itself, the current state of our sexual instinct IS something to be ashamed of! Can we be cured? Well, Lewis says that before we can be cured, but we must WANT to be cured. To illustrate this, he quotes St. Augustine:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;But I wretched, most wretched, in the very commencement of my early youth, had begged chastity of Thee, and said, &#8220;Give me chastity and continency, only not yet.&#8221; For I feared lest Thou shouldest hear me soon, and soon cure me of the disease of concupiscence, which I wished to have satisfied, rather than extinguished. And I had wandered through crooked ways in a sacrilegious superstition, not indeed assured thereof, but as preferring it to the others which I did not seek religiously, but opposed maliciously&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8211; St. Augustine, The Confessions, Book VIII<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 There are three reasons why desiring chastity is difficult:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>1. It&#8217;s unnatural\/unhealthy<br \/>\n<\/strong>Our warped human natures, the contemporary propaganda against chastity, as well as the Enemy are at work here. They combine to tell us that chastity is something unnatural because sex is perfectly naturally. This twists the truth. Sex is natural! However, not all expressions of sex are and neither are all contexts the same!<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Eating is a good thing, but not all kinds of eating. I mentioned a condition where a pregnant woman might gnaw on strange things, such as coal.\u00a0The condition is called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.webmd.com\/mental-health\/mental-health-pica\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Pica<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0I first heard this mentioned in a talk by <a href=\"https:\/\/mattfradd.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Matt Fradd<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>2. It&#8217;s impossible<br \/>\n<\/strong>If you ever want to overcome something, the first thing to do is to believe that it&#8217;s even possible!<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.&#8221;\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8211; G.K. Chesterton<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Matt gives the excellent example of the four-minute mile. For the longest time, it was thought that it was not physiologically possible for a human to run that fast. However, as soon as it was broken, suddenly many more people broke it because they\u00a0had been shown that it was actually possible! The Art of Manliness podcast recently had <a href=\"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/2018\/01\/25\/4-minute-mile-roger-bannister\/\">an episode on this subject<\/a> if you would like to\u00a0learn\u00a0more about the breaking of this world record.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">I told the story of making it past an overhang on a climbing wall purely because the person belaying me wouldn&#8217;t let me down until I had done it!<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Matt reminded us that chastity isn&#8217;t just a sheer act of the will, it requires God&#8217;s grace.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">It is important to know what to do when you falter or fail. This reminded me of Mike Tyson:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;Everyone has a plan\u00a0&#8217;till they get punched\u00a0in the mouth&#8221; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8211; Mike Tyson<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">This, in turn, reminded Matt of the following\u00a0words at\u00a0Pope Francis first Angelus:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">The problem is that we ourselves tire, we do not want to ask, we grow weary of asking for forgiveness. <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">He never tires of forgiving, but at times we get tired of asking for forgiveness<\/span>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">Let us never tire, let us never tire! He is the loving Father who always pardons, who has that heart of mercy for us all. And let us too learn to be merciful to everyone. Let us invoke the intercession of Our Lady who held in her arms the Mercy of God made man.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">Pope Francis, Angelus,\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/w2.vatican.va\/content\/francesco\/en\/angelus\/2013\/documents\/papa-francesco_angelus_20130317.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">March 17, 2013<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">When we fail in any virtue, God can use that moment to help us grow in the ability to pick ourselves back up and try again. This is something which is articulated very clearly in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ignatianspirituality.com\/ignatian-prayer\/the-spiritual-exercises\/what-are-the-spiritual-exercises\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>3. It&#8217;s repressive<br \/>\n<\/strong>However, people who say that chastity is repressive, don&#8217;t really know what true repression\u00a0is! Repression is when you push something into the subconscious, it is not simply when you say &#8220;No&#8221; to an impulse or emotion. Repressed sexuality will rarely manifest itself sexually.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Those who attempt chastity are MORE conscious and MORE aware of their sexuality and their impulses.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Matt brought up the example of Chesterton&#8217;s fence once again. Paradoxically, boundaries allow us to be more free.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Sex is not at the centre of Christian morality, although you may get that impression from Christians. The real centre\u00a0lies elsewhere and will be looked at in\u00a0a future episode.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Within us we have our true self, our animal self and our diabolical self.\u00a0The sins of the animal flesh are bad, but the\u00a0diabolical\u00a0spiritual sins are worse.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What is the virtue of chastity? Is it unhealthy, impossible\u00a0or repressive? In today&#8217;s episode, Matt and I look at what C.S. Lewis had to say about this, the most unpopular of the virtues&#8230; Are you following us on\u00a0Instagram yet? You should! 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