{"id":65771,"date":"2017-10-29T17:00:24","date_gmt":"2017-10-30T00:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=65771"},"modified":"2019-10-16T21:45:40","modified_gmt":"2019-10-17T04:45:40","slug":"the-eagle-and-child-s1e6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2017\/10\/29\/the-eagle-and-child-s1e6\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S1E6 &#8211; MC B1C4 &#8211; &#8220;What lies behind the Law&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-65560\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"860\" height=\"409\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1.jpg 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1-300x143.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1-768x365.jpg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1-600x285.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Our penultimate chapter of Book I of &#8220;Mere Christianity&#8221; is Chapter 4 and is entitled\u00a0<em>&#8220;What lies behind the Law&#8221;<\/em>.\u00a0In this episode, Jack digs into the consequences of the Moral Law and, in particular, what we can know about the universe in which we live.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, there were some small issues in this episode with my microphone, a bit of a crackle, but hopefully I&#8217;ll have\u00a0it sorted out by the next time Matt and I record agin.<\/p>\n<p>If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe using\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">iTunes<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Google Play<\/a>. As always, if you have any objections, comments or questions, please send us an email\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/contact\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">through my website<\/a>\u00a0or tweet us\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pintswithjack\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@pintswithjack<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Episode 6: &#8220;What lies behind the Law&#8221;<\/strong>\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/TEAC-S1E6.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-65771-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/TEAC-S1E6.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/TEAC-S1E6.mp3\">http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/TEAC-S1E6.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>&#8212; Show Notes &#8212;<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>* My outline for the\u00a0Chapter 4 is available\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2017\/06\/29\/mere-christianity-b1c4\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>* Jack divides the worldviews concerning the universe into two categories (and later three):<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">1. The materialist view<br \/>\n2. The religious view<\/p>\n<p>* When we were speaking about the breathtaking sequence of coincidences necessary for life to exist, I referenced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=yy6kaDaeDT8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a video<\/a> produced by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.premierchristianradio.com\/Shows\/Saturday\/Unbelievable\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Unbelievable<\/a> radio host, Justin Brierley.<\/p>\n<p>* We mentioned the Big Bang Theory which was put forward by scientist and Catholic priest <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Georges Lemaitre<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>* I briefly\u00a0referenced the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kalam_cosmological_argument\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kalam Cosmological Argument<\/a>\u00a0which, when expressed as a syllogism, is as follows:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em>1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause;<br \/>\n<\/em><em>2. The universe began to exist;<br \/>\n<\/em><em>3. Therefore: The universe has a cause.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The conclusion of this argument is that if time, space and matter came into existence at the beginning,\u00a0the\u00a0cause of the universe must be timeless, spaceless and immaterial. Sound familiar?<\/p>\n<p>* We referenced some other proofs for God, such as the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Five_Ways_(Aquinas)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Five Ways<\/a> of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Thomas_Aquinas\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">St. Thomas Aquinas<\/a>. For a wonderful presentation on these and some of the other proofs for God, I&#8217;d recommend <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qFjjA_Pt4AQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this\u00a0recording<\/a> of a talk given by Professor Peter Kreeft, as well as the recently-released book by the philosopher\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Edward Faser<\/a>\u00a0called\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Five-Proofs-Existence-Edward-Feser\/dp\/1621641333\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;Five Proofs of the existence of God&#8221;<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>* Matt spoke about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Why-Were-Catholic-Reasons-Faith\/dp\/1683570243\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;Why we&#8217;re Catholic&#8221;<\/a>, a book by Trent Horn, which he recently received from a generous podcast cohost!<\/p>\n<p>* Matt talks about\u00a0his interaction with famous Atheist, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.richarddawkins.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Richard Dawkins<\/a>, who wrote <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/God-Delusion-Richard-Dawkins-ebook\/dp\/B003JTHWJQ\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1509588926&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=god+delusion\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;The God Delusion&#8221;<\/a>.\u00a0That discussion referenced\u00a0Lawrence Krauss and his book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather\/dp\/1451624468\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;A Universe from Nothing&#8221;<\/a>. In response to this, I mentioned\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/b6H9XirkhZY?t=88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a rather funny moment<\/a> on a TV show where Richard Dawkins was a guest along with Cardinal George Pell, Archbishop of Sydney.<\/p>\n<p>* We discussed &#8220;scientism&#8221;, the popular idea that all knowledge must be reduced to scientific knowledge and that other sources of truth, such as philosophy, must be discarded.\u00a0One of the main problems with this view is that this is not scientific! It&#8217;s a philosophical claim! Additionally, science is based on an number of axioms which cannot be proved by science and must simply be assumed:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em>1. A world outside our minds must exist<br \/>\n<\/em><em>2. We must be able to attain true knowledge of this world<br \/>\n<\/em><em>3. Logic must be operable<br \/>\n<\/em><em>4. Our sense must give us trustworthy data<br \/>\n<\/em><em>5. Nature must be orderly and constant<\/em><\/p>\n<p>* The two proponents of &#8220;Life-Force Philosophy&#8221; mentioned were the\u00a0playwright\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/George_Bernard_Shaw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">George Bernard Shaw<\/a> and the philosopher\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Henri_Bergson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Henri Bergson<\/a>. George Bernard Shaw\u00a0was a great supporter of\u00a0Eugenics and here is a <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/hQvsf2MUKRQ?t=10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a brief video clip<\/a>\u00a0of him espousing his rather disturbing views.<\/p>\n<p>* Rejoice, there is a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=kcRFYGr1zcg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">C.S. Lewis Doodle<\/a> this week!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Our penultimate chapter of Book I of &#8220;Mere Christianity&#8221; is Chapter 4 and is entitled\u00a0&#8220;What lies behind the Law&#8221;.\u00a0In this episode, Jack digs into the consequences of the Moral Law and, in particular, what we can know about the universe in which we live.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":65566,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3111],"tags":[1914,2969,4365,4366,542,4375,4438,3591],"class_list":["post-65771","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast","tag-c-s-lewis","tag-featured","tag-mere-christianity","tag-moral-law","tag-morality","tag-the-eagle-and-child","tag-the-eagle-and-child-podcast","tag-the-moral-argument"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Book1Featured.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65771","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=65771"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65771\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":73842,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65771\/revisions\/73842"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/65566"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=65771"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=65771"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=65771"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}