{"id":65680,"date":"2017-10-22T07:00:42","date_gmt":"2017-10-22T14:00:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=65680"},"modified":"2019-09-19T11:46:38","modified_gmt":"2019-09-19T18:46:38","slug":"the-eagle-and-child-s1e5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2017\/10\/22\/the-eagle-and-child-s1e5\/","title":{"rendered":"PWJ: S1E5 &#8211; MC B1C3 &#8211; &#8220;The reality of the Law&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-65560\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"860\" height=\"409\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1.jpg 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1-300x143.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1-768x365.jpg 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Podcast-Book-1-600x285.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Moving on to Chapter 3 of &#8220;Mere Christianity&#8221;, Jack speaks further to <em>&#8220;The reality of the Law&#8221;<\/em>. Do we imagine a Moral Law because it is convenient to us? Or does it arise due to its good for society? In today&#8217;s episode, together with some help from C.S. Lewis, we tackle these and other questions&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>If you enjoy this episode, you can subscribe using\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-eagle-and-child-podcast-restless-pilgrim\/id1289456381\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">iTunes<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Ixvobfgi2wk4rkdegdnbdqjjh44?t=The_Eagle_and_Child\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Google Play<\/a>. As always, if you have any objections, comments or questions, please send us an email\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/contact\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">through my website<\/a>\u00a0or tweet us\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pintswithjack\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@pintswithjack<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Episode 5: &#8220;The reality of the Law&#8221;<\/strong>\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/TEAC-S1E5.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Download<\/a>)<\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-65680-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/TEAC-S1E5.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/TEAC-S1E5.mp3\">http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/TEAC-S1E5.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>&#8212; Show Notes &#8212;<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>*\u00a0My outline for the\u00a0Chapter 3\u00a0is available\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2017\/06\/27\/mere-christianity-b1c3\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>* This week, Matt and I were\u00a0finishing off some\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theheinekencompany.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Heineken<\/a>. If you&#8217;d like to suggest what we should drink in coming episodes, please tweet us\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pintswithjack\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@pintswithjack<\/a>. Remember, Matt is a very cheap date!<\/p>\n<p>* According to Jack, the fact that there&#8217;s this Moral Law and that we don&#8217;t keep\u00a0it is &#8220;odd&#8221; and this has consequences. What does this tell us about the Moral Law and what does it tell us about reality itself?<\/p>\n<p>* Stones and trees aren&#8217;t &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;bad&#8221;. They are the way they are because they follow the laws of nature and could never have been otherwise. The laws of nature are only <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">de<\/span>scriptive, not <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">pre<\/span>scriptive. They describe what stones and trees <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">do<\/span>\u00a0whereas the Moral Law describes what humans\u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">should<\/span> do.<\/p>\n<p>* Stones and trees are only &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;bad&#8221; in the sense that they are\u00a0convenient\u00a0or inconvenient to us, in relation to a particular use we have in mind.\u00a0Is it the same with the Moral Law? Are &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong&#8221; simply a question of convenience? No, because&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>(1)\u00a0Inconveniences can be identical,\u00a0yet\u00a0we regard one as &#8220;right&#8221; and another as &#8220;wrong&#8221;<br \/>\n(2) We might not be inconvenienced at all, yet still regard something as &#8220;wrong&#8221;<br \/>\n(3) Sometimes &#8220;bad&#8221; behaviour can be very convenient to us<br \/>\n(4) Sometimes our own &#8220;good&#8221; behaviour is immensely inconvenient<\/p>\n<p>* When talking about the inconvenience of the Christian life, Matt and I referred to the book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Cost-Discipleship-Dietrich-Bonhoeffer\/dp\/0684815001\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Cost of Discipleship<\/a> by the Dietrich Bonhoffer. When we make it to Book IV, in Chapter 8, Lewis will\u00a0discuss\u00a0the question &#8220;Is Christianity\u00a0hard or easy?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>* Some people might say that the Moral Law is simply what pays society as a whole. While a &#8220;fair&#8221; society does indeed help people to flourish, this argument rather misses the point.\u00a0Unless it affects me directly, why should I care about what&#8217;s good for society?<\/p>\n<p>* Matt and I discuss <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Game_theory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Game Theory<\/a>\u00a0in relation to the idea of society good. Matt describes <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tragedy_of_the_commons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Problem of the Commons<\/a> and I then I talk about\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=t9Lo2fgxWHw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Prisoner&#8217;s Dilemma<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>* Doesn&#8217;t it make sense that a good God would write on our hearts a Moral Law which would encourage our flourishing? (Aside from Aries in the movie <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wonder_Woman_(2017_film)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wonder Woman<\/a>, of course)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Moving on to Chapter 3 of &#8220;Mere Christianity&#8221;, Jack speaks further to &#8220;The reality of the Law&#8221;. Do we imagine a Moral Law because it is convenient to us? Or does it arise due to its good for society? In today&#8217;s episode, together with some help from C.S. 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