{"id":63071,"date":"2016-12-17T07:00:32","date_gmt":"2016-12-17T14:00:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=63071"},"modified":"2016-12-17T08:20:41","modified_gmt":"2016-12-17T15:20:41","slug":"prophet-or-messiah","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2016\/12\/17\/prophet-or-messiah\/","title":{"rendered":"Prophet or Messiah?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-63194\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/John.png\" alt=\"john\" width=\"860\" height=\"489\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/John.png 860w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/John-300x171.png 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/John-768x437.png 768w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/John-600x341.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As you will have no doubt noticed, I have been recently working my way through reading the Qur&#8217;an. As a result, over the last few days my inbox has begun filling up with messages related to Islam&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I received one such email from a Muslim who asked me about the time when the Jewish leaders questioned John the Baptist about his identity:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><span class=\"text John-1-19\">And this is the testimony of John [the Baptist], when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, \u201cWho are you?\u201d <\/span><span id=\"en-RSVCE-30229\" class=\"text John-1-20\">He confessed, he did not deny, but confessed, \u201cI am not the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Christ<\/span>.\u201d <\/span><span id=\"en-RSVCE-30230\" class=\"text John-1-21\">And they asked him, \u201cWhat then? Are you <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Eli\u2032jah<\/span>?\u201d He said, \u201cI am not.\u201d \u201cAre you <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">the prophet<\/span>?\u201d And he answered, \u201cNo.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8211; John 1:19-21<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>The Prophesied Prophet<\/h3>\n<p>He asked me if <span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;the prophet&#8221;<\/span> was a reference to Deuteronomy 18:18<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\">[Yahweh said to Moses], &#8220;<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">I will raise up for them a prophet<\/span>\u00a0like you from among their brethren; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I agreed that it was, pointing out that\u00a0St. Peter makes the connection in the Book of Acts:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\">Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out&#8230;that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, whom heaven must receive until the time for establishing all that God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets from of old. <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Moses said, \u2018The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet from your brethren as he raised me up. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you<\/span>&#8230;\u2019 And all the prophets who have spoken, from Samuel and those who came afterwards, also proclaimed these days.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8211; Acts 3:19-25<\/span><\/p>\n<p>He then asked me the\u00a0name of\u00a0<span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;the prophet&#8221;<\/span>. I replied that\u00a0it was &#8220;Jesus of Nazareth&#8221;. Here&#8217;s how he responded:<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">How can the prophet be Jesus? <\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">They asked John are you the messiah? He said NO.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">They asked him&#8230;are you Elijah? He said NO.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">They asked him a third question, are you the prophet? He said NO.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">[They are asking him] why are you baptizing if you are NOT Elijah NOR the messiah NOR the prophet?<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000080\">I think they meant somebody else when they asked John if he was the prophet?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This is a trimmed down version of what he wrote, but I&#8217;ve boiled it down to the essence of his argument. He was arguing that because\u00a0the Baptist&#8217;s interlocutors\u00a0ask him if he is <span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;the prophet&#8221;<\/span> even after he said he wasn&#8217;t <span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;the Messiah&#8221;<\/span>, that<strong> therefore the Messiah and Prophet must\u00a0be two different\u00a0people<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Why he would argue this is pretty clear if you&#8217;ve encountered Islam before. He thinks that Muhammad, and not Jesus, is\u00a0the prophet foretold in Deuteronomy 18:18. This is to justify\u00a0the claim in the Qur&#8217;an that Muhammad is spoken of in the Torah and Gospel.<\/p>\n<h3>Three Possible Identities of John<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000\">I responded to his argument by first reviewing the opening chapter of John&#8217;s Gospel&#8230; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000\">The narrative begins with John the Baptist\u00a0appearing in the desert. We know from the other Gospels that he was preaching repentance and claiming that the Kingdom of God is at hand (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Matthew+3%3A2&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">Matthew 3:2<\/a>). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000\">This mysterious figure naturally draws the attention of the religious establishment. We are told that the priests and Levites want to know who he is, so they scour the Old Testament for answers. In doing so, they find several\u00a0promises made by God:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>1. That\u00a0Elijah would return.<\/strong> John was certainly dressed in a similar manner to Elijah (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=2+kings+1%3A8%3B+matthew+3%3A4&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">2 Kings 1:8 and Matthew 3:4<\/a>) and he was baptizing close to where Elijah was assumed (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=2+kings+2%3A13&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">2 Kings 2:13<\/a>). So, could John be Elijah?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>2. That a prophet like Moses would be sent.<\/strong> John taught the people and called them to repentance like the prophets of old. So, could John be this prophet foretold by Moses (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Deuteronomy+18%3A18&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">Deuteronomy 18:18<\/a>)?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>3. That a Messiah would be sent.<\/strong> John spoke about the imminent coming of the Kingdom which would be brought by the Messiah (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Dan+7%3A13-14&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">Daniel 7:13-14<\/a>). Could John\u00a0be this\u00a0saviour?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000\">However, to each of these questions, John responded &#8220;no&#8221;&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #000000\">The Arrival of Jesus<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000\">It is at this point that Jesus appears on the scene. John turns to\u00a0Him and describes him as <span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world&#8221;<\/span>\u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=John+1%3A29&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">John 1:29<\/a>) and the one upon whom the Spirit rests (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=John+1%3A33-34&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">John 1:33-34<\/a>). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000\">In chapter 3, John repeats that he, John, is not the Christ. He says that <span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;He [Jesus] must increase, I [John] must decrease&#8221;<\/span>\u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=John+3%3A28&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">John 3:28<\/a>). John then describes Jesus as the Bridegroom of Israel (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=John+3%3A29&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">John 3:29<\/a>), a significant title, since this is a description used in the Old Testament for to describe Yahweh (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Isaiah+62%3A5&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">Isaiah 62:5<\/a>)&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #000000\">Separate people?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000\">So, returning to my Muslim friend&#8217;s argument, the assumption he\u00a0makes is\u00a0that\u00a0<span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;the prophet&#8221;<\/span> and <span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;the messiah&#8221;<\/span>\u00a0must be two separate people. Does that have to be the case? No, it does not:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>Does the Old Testament demand that?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo, it does not.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>Did all Jews think that the Prophet and Messiah were two different people?<\/strong><br \/>\nOnce again, no, they did not. The community behind the Dead Sea Scrolls (probably the Essenes) wrote many commentaries on Scripture and in their commentary on Deuteronomy, they explained\u00a0that <span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;the Prophet&#8221;<\/span> is also the Messiah. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>Did Jesus&#8217; own followers identify him as both Prophet and Messiah?<\/strong><br \/>\nYes, they did (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Acts+3%3A22&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">Acts 3:22 <\/a>and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=John+1%3A41&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">John 1:41<\/a>).<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000\">How then do we explain that the Jews in John 1:21 <u>seem<\/u>\u00a0to think that the Prophet and the Messiah were two separate people? Well, isn&#8217;t it possible that they were mistaken? After all, they were very wrong about the Messiah. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000\">The Messiah <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">they expected<\/span> was a warrior king like David who would expel the Romans and rule an independent Israel<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000\">&#8230;but the Messiah <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">they got<\/span> preached non-violence, taught them to <span style=\"color: #993300\">&#8220;render what is Caesar&#8217;s until Caesar&#8221;<\/span>\u00a0and\u00a0was ultimately tried for blasphemy and executed on\u00a0a cross.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As you will have no doubt noticed, I have been recently working my way through reading the Qur&#8217;an. 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