{"id":62982,"date":"2019-11-03T07:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-11-03T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=62982"},"modified":"2019-11-03T09:12:21","modified_gmt":"2019-11-03T16:12:21","slug":"christian-nation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2019\/11\/03\/christian-nation\/","title":{"rendered":"Christian Nation?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The other week I saw this on Facebook:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"480\" height=\"480\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Christian-Nation.jpg\" alt=\"christian-nation\" class=\"wp-image-62983\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Christian-Nation.jpg 480w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Christian-Nation-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Christian-Nation-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Christian-Nation-90x90.jpg 90w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Christian-Nation-75x75.jpg 75w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, I don&#8217;t have a particular dog i this fight. Whether the United States was founded on Christian values doesn&#8217;t make an iota of difference as to whether Christianity is true. Having said that, I was rather dubious about the claims of this meme, so I did a bit of a googling&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">John Adams<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I went and looked up the John Adams quotation and it looks like it&#8217;s been rather taken out of context. It comes from a letter which he sent to Thomas Jefferson:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Twenty times in the course of my late reading have I been on the point of breaking out, \u201cThis would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion at all!!!\u201d But in this exclamation I would have been as fanatical as Bryant or Cleverly. Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company, I mean hell<\/p><cite>Letter from John Adams to Thomas Jefferson (April 19, 1817)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Thomas Jefferson<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One could also get a little picky about Jefferson&#8217;s quotation too. He&#8217;s not making any assertions about the foundation of the country. Additionally, the quotation is compressed so that the meaning of &#8220;perverted&#8221; is, well, perverted! Jefferson believed that Christianity was &#8220;perverted&#8221; in the sense that it had been corrupted from its original form. In the same letter he describes the teaching of Jesus as &#8220;the most sublime &amp; benevolent&#8221;. In a letter to Benjamin Rush, he wrote:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; and believing he never claimed any other.<\/p><cite>Letter from Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Benjamin Franklin<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I went looking for the Franklin quotation and couldn&#8217;t find it. Does anyone know the source?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Concluding Thoughts<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, from ten minutes of googling, it was clear that several of these quotations were ripped out of context and don&#8217;t really represent the thought of the Founding Fathers of the United States. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, the more salient point is that the final statement in the meme hasn&#8217;t even been remotely justified: &#8220;The U.S. was founded on secular values&#8221;. Not only are &#8220;secular values&#8221; not defined, it would open up an interesting conversation about the grounding of such values. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, to finish, I think it&#8217;s sufficient to simply point out that the Declaration of Independence of the United States grounds all human rights in&#8230; God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>[A]ll men are created equal\u2026[and] are <strong>endowed by their Creator <\/strong>with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.<\/p><cite>The Declaration of Independence<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this post I respond to a meme I saw on Facebook about whether the United States was founded on Christian or secular values.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":73977,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17],"tags":[1762,5371,2969,5515,256],"class_list":["post-62982","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-faith","tag-america","tag-christian-nation","tag-featured","tag-the-united-states","tag-usa"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Fathers.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62982","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=62982"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62982\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":73978,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62982\/revisions\/73978"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/73977"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=62982"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=62982"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=62982"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}