{"id":59979,"date":"2016-01-10T07:00:39","date_gmt":"2016-01-10T14:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=59979"},"modified":"2020-03-25T11:55:05","modified_gmt":"2020-03-25T18:55:05","slug":"sinai-vs-kjv","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2016\/01\/10\/sinai-vs-kjv\/","title":{"rendered":"Quick Apology: Sinai Bible vs KJV"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last week I published an article outlining my response to an abortion meme posted on Facebook by a friend. Today I would like to do something similar. Below is a meme which I also saw on Facebook during Advent:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-59980\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Sinai.jpg\" alt=\"Sinai\" width=\"960\" height=\"733\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Sinai.jpg 960w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Sinai-300x229.jpg 300w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Sinai-600x458.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Once again, I would like to share&nbsp;a modified version of the&nbsp;response I posted in reply as I know some readers find it helpful to see how different Christians respond to stuff like this.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>My Response<\/h2>\n<p>There are really quite a lot of incorrect and misleading statements in this meme. Let&#8217;s just take each of the statements in turn&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080\">STATEMENT #1: &#8220;THE OLDEST VERSION OF BIBLE IN THE WORLD IS THE SINAI BIBLE, HOUSED IN THE BRITISH MUSEUM&#8221;<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>Problem #1:&nbsp;Oldest?<\/strong><br>\nI&#8217;m assuming that what they call <span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;THE SINAI BIBLE&#8221;<\/span>&nbsp;is what is known in the academic community as&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Codex_Sinaiticus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Codex Sinaiticus<\/a>. If so, then it&#8217;s a rather bold statement to call this <span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;THE OLDEST VERSION OF THE BIBLE&#8221;<\/span>. There&#8217;s a good chance that <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Codex_Vaticanus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Codex Vaticanus<\/a>&nbsp;is a good thirty years older, demonstrated&nbsp;by its more archaic style and the absence of the Eusebian Canon tables.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>Problem #2: Bible?<\/strong><br>\nIt would be easy to conclude from this meme that Sinaiticus is the oldest Biblical manuscript we have&#8230;but it isn&#8217;t. Rather, Sinaiticus is one&nbsp;of the oldest collections&nbsp;which contains all the Biblical books&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">in a single volume<\/span>. We have older manuscripts for each of the individual books. Sinaiticus just happens to have them all together, along with other non-canonical works.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>Problem #3:&nbsp;Location<\/strong><br>\nThe Codex is in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bl.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">British Library<\/a>, not the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.britishmuseum.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">British Museum<\/a>. They&#8217;re not the same thing.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080\">STATEMENT #2: &#8220;THERE ARE OVER 14,800 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS BIBLE AND THE STANDARD KING JAMES VERSION&#8221;<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>Problem #4:&nbsp;Languages<\/strong><br>\nThe major problem with this meme is that it is asking us to compare a 4th Century work written in <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Greek<\/span>&nbsp;to an <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">English translation<\/span>&nbsp;published in the 17th Century. How&#8217;s that meant to work?!<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>Problem #5: The Standards<\/strong><br>\nIn fact, why are these two works selected as the standards in the first place? For example, the various problems with the KJV translation are well-known to textual criticism&nbsp;scholars. The issues are a bit too dull to go into here (unless you like that sort of thing), so&nbsp;I&#8217;ll simply make that point that the KJV isn&#8217;t exactly the zenith of Bible translations so I&#8217;m uncertain why that translation is held up as the standard.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>Problem #6: The&nbsp;&#8220;Differences&#8221;<\/strong><br>\nIn textual criticism, any deviation whatsoever between two documents counts as a &#8220;difference&#8221;. This would include spelling mistakes, duplicated words, jumbled word order etc. Why would the author of this meme think that a scribal error suddenly undermines the validity of the Bible?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">In fact, if I really wanted to get picky, I could point out that there&#8217;s a scribal error in this meme!&nbsp;I believe that they meant to say <span style=\"color: #000080\">&#8220;THE OLDEST VERSION OF <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">THE<\/span> BIBLE&#8230;&#8221;<\/span>&nbsp;Should I doubt the veracity of this meme purely based upon the inability of its authors to proof-check their work?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080\">STATEMENT #3: &#8220;JUST HOW MUCH PROOF DO YOU NEED THAT THE &#8220;WORD OF GOD&#8221; IS NOTHING BUT THE WORDS OF MEN?&#8221;<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><strong>Problem #7: Manuscript Traditions<\/strong><br>\nLet&#8217;s say for sake of argument that the&nbsp;differences mentioned in the meme were, in fact, really important. Let&#8217;s even go so far as to say that these differences changed the meaning of the text&#8230;what exactly would that prove?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Even if Sinaiticus was irrefutably&nbsp;shown to be riddled with errors, it wouldn&#8217;t show the Bible to be unreliable. The most you could conclude was that&nbsp;Codex Sinaiticus is an unreliable manuscript.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">We have many&nbsp;more manuscripts in addition to&nbsp;Sinaiticus. In fact, we have a full manuscript tradition. As has been&nbsp;often pointed out, the Bible is the best-attested document of antiquity. In fact, it&#8217;s <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">because<\/span>&nbsp;of the volume of manuscripts found across&nbsp;the Roman Empire that we can see exactly where scribal errors have been introduced.<\/p>\n<p>Those are the seven problems with this meme. I suppose we can&#8217;t blame it&nbsp;too much, it is a meme after all, but it is extremely misleading. It compares apples and oranges and completely disregards the well-established science of manuscript studies.<\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DB18or8bJ10?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week I published an article outlining my response to an abortion meme posted on Facebook by a friend. 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