{"id":488,"date":"2010-08-19T09:07:15","date_gmt":"2010-08-19T17:07:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thisrestlesspilgrim.wordpress.com\/?p=488"},"modified":"2025-02-25T11:35:53","modified_gmt":"2025-02-25T17:35:53","slug":"once-saved-always-saved","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2010\/08\/19\/once-saved-always-saved\/","title":{"rendered":"Out There: Eternal Security\/Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-519\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/church_bouncers.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"187\" \/>Today I&#8217;d like to look at another doctrine that is out there in the Christian world. \u00a0It is usually called either the doctrine of <em>&#8220;Eternal Security&#8221;<\/em> or <em>&#8220;Once Saved, Always Saved&#8221; <\/em>(<em>&#8220;<\/em><em>OSAS&#8221;)<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>In case you haven&#8217;t heard of it, this doctrine basically says that once you have been &#8220;saved&#8221; (however one understands that to happen) you can never lose your salvation &#8211; it&#8217;s absolutely impossible. \u00a0No amount of sin can change that. \u00a0Your card has been stamped, the credit card paid off and your name added to the guest list&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>Eternal Security Origins<\/h2>\n<p>The doctrine of &#8220;Once Saved, Always Saved&#8221; has its roots in <em>&#8220;Sola Fide&#8221;<\/em>, the 16<sup>th<\/sup> Century doctrine that we are saved by <em>&#8220;faith <\/em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><em>alone<\/em><\/span><em>&#8220;<\/em> (something which Scripture itself flatly denies in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=James%202:24&amp;version=NIV\">James 2:24<\/a>). \u00a0I will briefly look at the doctrine of <em>&#8220;Faith Alone&#8221;<\/em> in an upcoming blog entry.<\/p>\n<p>Like <em>&#8220;Faith Alone&#8221;<\/em>, <em>&#8220;Eternal Security&#8221;<\/em> made its first appearance at the Reformation, being introduced by leaders such as Bucer and Calvin. \u00a0Interestingly though, it was never taught by Luther:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000000\">&#8220;Through baptism these people threw out unbelief, had their unclean way of life washed away, and entered into a pure life of faith and love. Now they <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">fall away into unbelief<\/span>&#8221; &#8211; <\/span><\/em><span style=\"color: #000000\">Martin Luther, Commentary on 2 Peter 2:22<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Once Saved, Always Saved&#8221; also has its roots in the Reformed understanding of justification. \u00a0The majority of Protestant theology says that our justification is a mere declaration of\u00a0righteousness\u00a0(<em>\u201clegal imputation\u201d)<\/em>, in contrast to Catholic theology which says that we have grace poured into our soul (<em>&#8220;infusion of grace&#8221;<\/em>), returning to us the divine life lost by Adam in The Fall. \u00a0This, however, is a topic too large for this blog entry, so let&#8217;s move on..<\/p>\n<h2>The Logic &amp; Oversight<\/h2>\n<p>The central thrust of OSAS logic is that, since salvation is a free gift of grace, nobody can take it away from you.\u00a0 Supporters of this doctrine usually quote passages such as:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>\u201cI give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand\u201d<\/em> &#8211; John 10:28<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Proponents of this doctrine are <em>absolutely correct<\/em> when they state that salvation is a free gift, but they miss the fact that a gift, even if it is initially accepted, can ultimately be scorned, sullied and rejected.\u00a0 Although no one can snatch you from Christ\u2019s hand, you can wriggle yourself free if you so choose.<\/p>\n<p>In the parable of the Prodigal Son, the Son chose to renounce his sonship, leave his home and go his own way.\u00a0 As a consequence of this he became <em><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u201clost\u201d<\/span><\/em> and <em><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u201cdead\u201d<\/span><\/em> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Luke%2015:32&amp;version=NIV\">Luke 15:32<\/a>). \u00a0The same spiritual death is open to us if we choose to reject our Father and\u00a0walk away from our family home.<\/p>\n<h2>But what does the Bible say?<\/h2>\n<p>Rather than provide any more argumentation, I\u2019ll simply let the Bible speak for itself:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><span style=\"font-size: small\"><span style=\"line-height: 10px\"><em>&#8220;<\/em><\/span><\/span><em>If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">There is a sin that leads to death<\/span>. I am not saying that he should pray about that. <\/em><span style=\"font-size: small\"><span style=\"line-height: 10px\"><em>A<\/em><\/span><\/span><em>ll wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death&#8221; <\/em>&#8211; 1 John 5:16-17<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em> \u201cBut if some of the branches were broken off [the Jews], and you, a wild olive shoot [the Gentiles], were grafted in their place to share the richness of the olive tree [Jesus Christ], do not boast over the branches&#8230;For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will He spare you&#8230;Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God\u2019s kindness to you, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">provided you continue in His kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off<\/span>\u201d<\/em> &#8211; Romans 11:1-23<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>\u201cIt is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be\u00a0<\/em><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">burdened again<\/span> by a<\/em><em>yoke<\/em><em>of<\/em><em>slavery\u2026You who are trying to be justified by law have been <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">alienated from Christ<\/span>; you have <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">fallen<\/span><\/em><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">away from\u00a0<\/span><\/em><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">grace<\/span><\/em><em>\u201d <\/em>\u2013 Galatians 5:1, 4<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>\u201cAnd you, who once were estranged and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and irreproachable before him, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">provided that you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel<\/span>\u201d <\/em>\u2013 Colossians 1:21-23<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>\u201cTake care, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">brethren<\/span>, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">leading you to fall away<\/span> from the living God. But exhort one another every day . . . that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we share in Christ, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">if only we hold our first confidence firm to the end<\/span>\u201d <\/em>&#8211; Hebrews 3:12-14<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>\u201cIf they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">again entangled<\/span> in it and overcome, they are <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">worse off<\/span> at the end than they were at the beginning.<\/em><em>It would have been better for them not to have<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"> known the way of righteousness<\/span>, than to have known it and then to <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">turn their backs<\/span> on the sacred command that was passed on to them. \u00a0Of them the proverbs are true: \u2018A dog <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">returns to its vomit<\/span>,&#8221; and, &#8220;A sow that is washed <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">goes back to her wallowing in the mud<\/span><strong>\u2019<\/strong>&#8221; <\/em>\u2013 2 Peter 2:20-22<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><strong><em><span style=\"font-weight: normal\">&#8220;I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If anyone <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">does not remain<\/span> in me, he is like a branch that is <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">thrown away<\/span> and <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">withers<\/span>; such branches are picked up, thrown into the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">fire<\/span>\u00a0and <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">burned<\/span>.&#8221; <\/span><\/em><\/strong>&#8211; John 15:1-6<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">&#8230;and many, many more&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>If it is possible to die, be cut off, yoked back into slavery, turn away, fall away from grace, thrown away and burned then it is possible to lose your salvation.\u00a0 For Paul and John, once saved clearly doesn\u2019t mean always saved.<\/p>\n<h2>Usual objections<\/h2>\n<p>When I&#8217;ve spoken with non-Catholics about this topic and presented to them what Sacred Scripture says on the matter, the passages are usually ignored. \u00a0Instead, verses about God&#8217;s faithfulness are usually quoted at me. \u00a0However, it&#8217;s not <em>God&#8217;s<\/em> faithfulness that&#8217;s in question &#8211; it&#8217;s <em>ours<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p>When I eventually get them to comment on the passages I&#8217;ve presented I&#8217;m often told that Scripture isn&#8217;t saying what it looks like it&#8217;s saying. \u00a0Here is a\u00a0snippet\u00a0of an email I received from one person with whom I&#8217;ve been corresponding:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #003366\">&#8220;A good study of this will show that Paul [and] John speak of being cut off from fellowship with God, not cut off from salvation.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #003366\">One can be in Christ, but yet cut off from fellowship. Fellowship and salvation are two different things. When one sins, and refuses to repent, God will not comune with us, until we make it right by Him. This is cut off from fellowship. God does this to bring us back into fellowship with Him.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, this argument has no real scriptural grounding and really just doesn&#8217;t make a whole lot of sense. If Christ didn&#8217;t come to restore our fellowship with God then what did He come to do? In what way do the passages I presented suggest that they are talking about <em>&#8220;communion&#8221;,<\/em> separate from <em> &#8220;salvation&#8221;<\/em>? In what way can one be a member of a vine or an olive tree, then be cut off and burned and yet <em>still <\/em>be joined to the original plant?<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t see how Scripture could use language any more dramatic than<span style=\"color: #993300\">\u00a0<em>&#8220;turn away&#8230;cut off&#8230;yoked back into slavery&#8230;fall away from grace&#8230;be alienated from Christ&#8230;burdened again&#8230;entangled&#8230;return to vomit&#8230;and wallow in mud&#8221;<\/em><\/span>. Do these sound like people who are assured of their salvation? \u00a0How could Scripture use language any more serious?\u00a0I asked these questions in my last email three months ago. \u00a0I have yet to receive an answer.<\/p>\n<p>The alternative to OSAS? \u00a0Remain in Christ and hope in Him who is faithful.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>&#8220;Find rest, O my soul, in God alone; my hope comes from him&#8221; <\/em> &#8211; Psalm 62:5<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE: Mack responded to this post in the Comment Box below. I responded to his comments in a three-part series: <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2013\/06\/26\/osas-three-cups-of-tea-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Part 1<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2013\/06\/27\/osas-three-cups-of-tea-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Part 2<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2013\/06\/28\/osas-three-cups-of-tea-par-3\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Part 3<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>UPDATE: Joe Heschmeyer just gave the best short presentation on this subject <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/-hjuxRDqBmc\">here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today I&#8217;d like to look at another doctrine that is out there in the Christian world. \u00a0It is usually called either the doctrine of &#8220;Eternal Security&#8221; or &#8220;Once Saved, Always Saved&#8221; (&#8220;OSAS&#8221;). 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