{"id":45725,"date":"2014-09-27T07:00:13","date_gmt":"2014-09-27T14:00:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=45725"},"modified":"2015-03-19T13:55:18","modified_gmt":"2015-03-19T20:55:18","slug":"why-not-the-source","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2014\/09\/27\/why-not-the-source\/","title":{"rendered":"Quick Apology: Why not go to the source?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s &#8220;Quick Apology&#8221; is a sequel to an earlier post,\u00a0<a title=\"Quick Apology: You can\u2019t pray to dead people\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2014\/08\/26\/you-cant-pray-to-dead-people\/\" target=\"_blank\">Quick Apology: You can&#8217;t pray to dead people<\/a>. In that post I explained how those who have died in friendship with Christ are not &#8220;dead&#8221;, but are in fact more alive than we are. On Facebook, one of my friends responded with this question&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Objection<\/h2>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>&#8220;But <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">why<\/span> would you <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">want<\/span> to pray to a Saint? Why not just go to the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">source<\/span>, Christ?&#8221;<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<h2>Response<\/h2>\n<p>This question is a reasonable one and makes sense until we consider everyday Christian practice&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>When\u00a0I meet up with my closest Christian friends, I will almost always ask\u00a0them for their prayers concerning particular things going on in my life. However, if the above objection were\u00a0valid, shouldn&#8217;t I being going directly to Christ? Why would\u00a0I ask others to intercede for me when I could just instead make my requests to the Source directly?<\/p>\n<p>To be certain, Christ has a <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2013\/04\/08\/where-does-mary-fit-in\/\" target=\"_blank\">special kind<\/a> of mediation (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=1+Timothy+2%3A5&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">1 Timothy 2:5<\/a>),\u00a0but that doesn&#8217;t preclude\u00a0other kinds of mediation. In fact, we&#8217;re told in Scripture that we should intercede for each other (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=1+Timothy+2%3A1&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">1 Timothy 2:1<\/a>). So, the reasons why one would ask the Saints for their\u00a0intercession are\u00a0the same reasons why one would ask for the prayers of close friends. As my friend Steve said:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000000\">I&#8217;ve never seen a man in a true emergency when, for example, a car wreck requires emergency surgery for his young child, opt out of having others pray with him because he&#8217;d rather go straight to the Source.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not an either\/or proposition. Praying to the Lord directly is a good thing. Asking for the intercession of others is <em>also<\/em> a good thing. These two things don&#8217;t have to be in competition.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>&#8220;We are taught by the Catholic faith that we may pray not only to God himself, but also to the Blessed in heaven, though <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">in different manner<\/span>; because we ask from <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">God as from the Source of all good<\/span>, but from the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Saints as from intercessors<\/span>\u201d<\/em> &#8211; Pope Leo XIII (<a style=\"color: #000000\" href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/holy_father\/leo_xiii\/encyclicals\/documents\/hf_l-xiii_enc_12091897_augustissimae-virginis-mariae_en.html\"><em>Augustissimae Virginis Mariae<\/em><\/a> 9)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>So, back to the question: <em>why\u00a0<\/em>would you want to pray to Saint? Well, when we are baptised, we become part of a very large family, a <span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>&#8220;great cloud of witnesses&#8221;<\/em><\/span>, all united together in Christ. What do good families do? They pray for each other.<\/p>\n<p>When we ask friends to pray for us, I think it&#8217;s safe to say that we particularly request intercession from those whom we esteem as being strong in faith since\u00a0<span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>&#8220;the prayer of a\u00a0righteous man has great power in its effects&#8221;<\/em><\/span> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=James+5%3A16&amp;version=RSVCE\" target=\"_blank\">James 5:16<\/a>). Who is more righteous than those standing before the throne of God, those in<span style=\"color: #993300\"><em> &#8220;<span id=\"en-RSVCE-34393\" class=\"text Heb-12-22\">the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem&#8230;<\/span><\/em><\/span><span id=\"en-RSVCE-34394\" class=\"text Heb-12-23\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><em>just men made perfect&#8221;<\/em><\/span>?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cloud-of-Witnesses.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-45730 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cloud-of-Witnesses.jpg\" alt=\"Cloud of Witnesses\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cloud-of-Witnesses.jpg 640w, https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cloud-of-Witnesses-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>PS &#8211; I&#8217;ll endeavour to do a more thorough post in the future as to what mean when we speak of &#8220;prayer&#8221; to the Saints. Don&#8217;t let me forget&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>PPS &#8211; Joe over at Shameless Popery <a href=\"http:\/\/catholicdefense.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/pray-to-saints-why-not-go-directly-to.html\" target=\"_blank\">also blogged<\/a> about this topic yesterday. Go check it out \ud83d\ude42<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s &#8220;Quick Apology&#8221; is a sequel to an earlier post,\u00a0Quick Apology: You can&#8217;t pray to dead people. In that post I explained how those who have died in friendship with Christ are not &#8220;dead&#8221;, but are in fact more alive than we are. On Facebook, one of my friends responded with this question&#8230; Objection &#8220;But why would you want to<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[28,17],"tags":[2969,73,925,1865,2758,263],"class_list":["post-45725","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-apologetics","category-faith","tag-featured","tag-grace","tag-intercession","tag-mediation","tag-quick-apology","tag-saints"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45725","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45725"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45725\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":47811,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45725\/revisions\/47811"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45725"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45725"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45725"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}