{"id":23968,"date":"2014-02-11T07:00:45","date_gmt":"2014-02-11T14:00:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/?p=23968"},"modified":"2015-01-19T13:35:26","modified_gmt":"2015-01-19T20:35:26","slug":"march-for-life-discussion-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2014\/02\/11\/march-for-life-discussion-2\/","title":{"rendered":"March For Life Discussion: Live and let live"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today I&#8217;m continuing my <a href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/tag\/march-for-life-2014\/?order=asc\" target=\"_blank\">series of posts<\/a> in response to the Facebook discussion a couple of weeks ago concerning the <a href=\"http:\/\/marchforlife.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">March For Life<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In my <a title=\"March For Life Discussion: Better Communication\" href=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/2014\/02\/05\/march-for-life-discussion-1\/\">previous entry<\/a>\u00a0I briefly looked at what I think can be done to raise the standard of dialog between pro-life and pro-choice advocates. I would now like to start looking at some of the particular issues which were raised during the exchange. Today I would like to focus upon the opening comment from a former schoolmate:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em><span style=\"color: #000000\">&#8220;I kinda just wish people would stop telling other people how to live their lives&#8230;.I&#8217;m pro-CHOICE, not pro-telling-people-what-to-do&#8230;.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>As a pro-lifer, you hear sentiments similar\u00a0to the one expressed above\u00a0with considerable regularity and, on the surface, such a position seems extremely commendable. In fact, it is one of the sacrosanct secular doctrines in contemporary culture.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/Live-and-let-live.png\" alt=\"Live and let live\" width=\"350\" height=\"69\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I think that respecting other people&#8217;s opinion is a good thing, I do. I mean, nobody likes to be told what to do, right?\u00a0However, there are some immediate problems here.\u00a0For a start, the statement self-refuting.\u00a0As soon as you tell someone that they should mind their own business, you&#8217;re attempting, at least in some measure,\u00a0to impose your own will on another person. That means you&#8217;re breaking your own rule and not minding your own business!<\/p>\n<p>In the remainder of this post I would like to look at whether the live-and-let-live ideal is consistently applied&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>Always live-and-let-live?<\/h2>\n<p>Let&#8217;s say I&#8217;m walking out of a coffee shop on a Saturday morning and I see a mother take her two-year-old daughter out of her stroller. She then takes the child by the head and prepares to smash the toddler&#8217;s skull against the sidewalk.<\/p>\n<p>How would you respond in that situation? Would you intervene when the mother&#8217;s intention became apparent?\u00a0Would you still choose to live-and-let-live? The child in question is not yours, so should you mind your own business? You don&#8217;t know the woman&#8217;s story, so should you assume she has a good reason for doing what she&#8217;s doing? Are you really in a position to make a judgement?<\/p>\n<p>Of course, such a response would be ridiculous. You&#8217;d intervene. In fact, in such a scenario you would be\u00a0morally <strong>obligated\u00a0<\/strong>to save the child&#8217;s life. In a civilized society we defend the defenseless and, as such, you&#8217;d have to interfere. Inaction would simply not be an option.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/Toddler-and-unborn.jpg\" alt=\"Toddler-and-unborn\" width=\"472\" height=\"335\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In my opinion, the abortion issue turns on the scenario presented above. On what basis is it possible to say that it is <strong>acceptable<\/strong> to dismember a child in the womb, yet assert that it becomes <strong>unacceptable<\/strong> once the child has passed down the birth canal?<\/p>\n<p>This is an important question and I would invite each pro-choice advocate to consider it. I&#8217;ve known some who have refused to answer, simply saying it&#8217;s <span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>&#8220;completely different&#8221;<\/em><\/span> or <span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>&#8220;stupid&#8221;<\/em><\/span>. Maybe it is, but in my opinion, the answer to this question typically takes us to the real heart of the issue for that person. So, if you think it&#8217;s completely different, then please explain the difference to me. If you think it&#8217;s a stupid question, then just give me a stupid answer!<\/p>\n<p>I will talk more about this particular question in greater depth in a future post.\u00a0For the time-being, it is enough to see that the live-and-let-live attitude isn&#8217;t the panacea for which we might have hoped.<\/p>\n<h2>Further consequences<\/h2>\n<p>Hopefully, it is starting to become clear that the mind-your-own-business policy is not consistently employed. But what would happen if we <strong>did<\/strong> employ it consistently?\u00a0If attending a pro-life rally violates this policy, then so would every other kind of protest and activism, whether it concerned anti-racism, animal cruelty, human rights or some other noble cause.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, not only would we have to do away with political activism, we&#8217;d also have to abolish the entire civil code! After all, what are laws, other than things which tell people what they are and are not allowed to do? A country&#8217;s laws interfere with the lives of the residents!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-24291 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/anarchists.jpg\" alt=\"anarchists\" width=\"472\" height=\"372\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Now, I seriously doubt that my friend is really advocating anarchy. I&#8217;m sure he is grateful that he lives in a country where there are laws and he is glad that, in different ways, we do in fact tell people in society what they can and cannot do.<\/p>\n<p>If I had to hazard a guess, I would suggest that the issue isn&#8217;t that my friend thinks that we should <strong>refrain<\/strong> from telling people what to do, but rather that we shouldn&#8217;t tell people what to do\u00a0in this <strong>particular <\/strong>area.\u00a0This, of course, begs\u00a0the question as to why he thinks this case is special. As with the toddler question above, I would suggest that answering this would most likely get to the real heart of the issue for him.<\/p>\n<p>I think that&#8217;ll do for today. Hopefully in this post I have demonstrated some of the problems with the statement that the pro-lifers should just mind their own business. You see, we&#8217;re happy to live-and-let-live, but only when <em>everyone<\/em>\u00a0gets to live-and-let-live&#8230;both the born and the unborn.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-24293 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/restlesspilgrim.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Live-and-let-live.png\" alt=\"Live and let live\" width=\"472\" height=\"318\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today I&#8217;m continuing my series of posts in response to the Facebook discussion a couple of weeks ago concerning the March For Life. 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